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CyrilFerlicot

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

Le 06/10/2017 à 13:02, kmo a écrit :

> I was trying to Soup on Windows 7 and found I could not access https sites
>
> On windows 7 and 10 the following code fails:
>
> ZnEasy get:'https://genius.com/Alice-nuvole-lyrics'.
>
> This works fine in Pharo 5 on Windows. Also works fine with Pharo 6.1 (32
> bit) on Linux.
>
> The problem is Pharo 6.1 on Windows.
>
> The error is:
>
> "SSL/TLS plugin initialization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries
> missing ?)"
>
> I know that his has been seen on Linux in the past - see
> http://forum.world.st/SSL-TLS-plugin-initailization-failed-VM-plugin-missing-OS-libraries-missing-td4945857.html
>
> I'm running the latest vm and 6.1 image.
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>

I just saw that Windows Defender consider this plugin as a Trojan and
delete it.

Name of the menace: Trojan:Win32/Azden.A!cl

Should this be reported on Pharo's issue tracker or on opensmalltalk one?

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

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Stephane Ducasse-3

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

both now I do not see what we can do if a third party tools consider
that we are a virus.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D.
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le 06/10/2017 à 13:02, kmo a écrit :
>> I was trying to Soup on Windows 7 and found I could not access https sites
>>
>> On windows 7 and 10 the following code fails:
>>
>> ZnEasy get:'https://genius.com/Alice-nuvole-lyrics'.
>>
>> This works fine in Pharo 5 on Windows. Also works fine with Pharo 6.1 (32
>> bit) on Linux.
>>
>> The problem is Pharo 6.1 on Windows.
>>
>> The error is:
>>
>> "SSL/TLS plugin initialization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries
>> missing ?)"
>>
>> I know that his has been seen on Linux in the past - see
>> http://forum.world.st/SSL-TLS-plugin-initailization-failed-VM-plugin-missing-OS-libraries-missing-td4945857.html
>>
>> I'm running the latest vm and 6.1 image.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>
>
> I just saw that Windows Defender consider this plugin as a Trojan and
> delete it.
>
> Name of the menace: Trojan:Win32/Azden.A!cl
>
> Should this be reported on Pharo's issue tracker or on opensmalltalk one?
>
> --
> Cyril Ferlicot
> https://ferlicot.fr
>
> http://www.synectique.eu
> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>

CyrilFerlicot

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

Le 06/10/2017 à 18:32, Stephane Ducasse a écrit :
> both now I do not see what we can do if a third party tools consider
> that we are a virus.
>
>

Done.

I don't know how to not be detected but Windows Defender is the default
anti-virus on windows. The majority of windows user use it now. If it is
possible to improve this, it would be cool. Maybe someone has experience
in that area?

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

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Tim Mackinnon

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

Can we not contact the windows defender team and find a way to improve their detection? Presumably the signature they are finding is not good enough?

Doesn’t one of the Dolphin guys work at MS - or does someone in our network have a contact?

Tim

> On 6 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Le 06/10/2017 à 18:32, Stephane Ducasse a écrit :
>> both now I do not see what we can do if a third party tools consider
>> that we are a virus.
>>
>>
>
> Done.
>
> I don't know how to not be detected but Windows Defender is the default
> anti-virus on windows. The majority of windows user use it now. If it is
> possible to improve this, it would be cool. Maybe someone has experience
> in that area?
>
>
> --
> Cyril Ferlicot
> https://ferlicot.fr
>
> http://www.synectique.eu
> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>

Ben Coman

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

In reply to this post by CyrilFerlicot

First pass approximation...

* https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission

* https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/all/windows-defender-win-864-bit-false-positive/4a8013bd-db45-4c98-988e-f5fa6dcb648a?auth=1

cheers -ben

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 06/10/2017 à 18:32, Stephane Ducasse a écrit :
> both now I do not see what we can do if a third party tools consider
> that we are a virus.
>
>

Done.

I don't know how to not be detected but Windows Defender is the default
anti-virus on windows. The majority of windows user use it now. If it is
possible to improve this, it would be cool. Maybe someone has experience
in that area?

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

philippeback

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient in Pharo 6.1 not working for Https on Windows

In reply to this post by Stephane Ducasse-3

Back from the grave on this one but the current 6.1 is not fixed on that front and the antivirus (Defender) does not delete anything.

This makes 6.1 an unusable target on Windows and 70 is also unusable.

So, the only viable thing is a 50.

This is not really serious.

What's the point of piling features upon features if basic stuff is not working?

Phil

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

both now I do not see what we can do if a third party tools consider
that we are a virus.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D.
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Le 06/10/2017 à 13:02, kmo a écrit :
>> I was trying to Soup on Windows 7 and found I could not access https sites
>>
>> On windows 7 and 10 the following code fails:
>>
>> ZnEasy get:'https://genius.com/Alice-nuvole-lyrics'.
>>
>> This works fine in Pharo 5 on Windows. Also works fine with Pharo 6.1 (32
>> bit) on Linux.
>>
>> The problem is Pharo 6.1 on Windows.
>>
>> The error is:
>>
>> "SSL/TLS plugin initialization failed (VM plugin missing ? OS libraries
>> missing ?)"
>>
>> I know that his has been seen on Linux in the past - see
>> http://forum.world.st/SSL-TLS-plugin-initailization-failed-VM-plugin-missing-OS-libraries-missing-td4945857.html
>>
>> I'm running the latest vm and 6.1 image.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>
>
> I just saw that Windows Defender consider this plugin as a Trojan and
> delete it.
>
> Name of the menace: Trojan:Win32/Azden.A!cl
>
> Should this be reported on Pharo's issue tracker or on opensmalltalk one?
>
> --
> Cyril Ferlicot
> https://ferlicot.fr
>
> http://www.synectique.eu
> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>