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Re: Promoting adoption of Smalltalk and Java Integration

David Simmons
"Gary Overgard" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
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> "James A. Robertson" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
> news:[hidden email]...
> > Stephane Ducasse wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi James,
> > >
> > > This is a good news.
> > >
> > > I just have two questions:
> > >     - to your point of view what would be a killing use of Frost?
> > >     (Alan Knight on the Squeak mailing list said JDBC drivers for
> > > Smalltalk )
> >
> > That's probably the easiest big win.  The simple re-use of existing code
> > is another.
> >
> > >
> =========
>
> This almost seems as good as .NET to me.  Although it only handles 2
> languages, Java seems to be the only one that we are overly concerned
about
> anyway.

Actually James, one of the reasons why the ability of a Smalltalk VM to run
Java directly from jar files is (as I mentioned in another set of posts)
extremely appealing for me is that there are a lot of languages have
compilers that do the contortions necessary to make themselves run on a JVM.
So, supporting Java (JVM semantics) in a Smalltalk VM means that the
Smalltalk VM can run those languages. AND THAT really is like .NET.

-- Dave Simmons [www.qks.com / www.smallscript.com]
  "Effectively solving a problem begins with how you express it."

> This will allow us to take large Java applications that are already
> connected through lots of middleware & GUI's, and provide better/updated
> models in Smalltalk without having to redo everything.  Has the beauty of
> allowing piecemeal replacement of a Java application.  It seems like a
much

> easier sell to the entrenched Java community to demonstrate Smalltalks
> superior modeling abilities by just replacing portions of thier code!
>   -- Gary Overgard
>      [hidden email]
>
>
> > >     - Related to that question what would be a Frost success from the
> > > point of view of Cincom?
> > >    I imagine that if open sourcing Frost is a success this would give
> more
> > >
> > >     power to the people inside Cincom that would like to open source
> other
> > > code.
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Stef
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > James A. Robertson
> > Technical Product Manager (Smalltalk), Cincom
> > [hidden email]
> >
> > <Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library>
>
>