Re: Smalltalk lecture in Africa

Dear Stef,

what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel?

Cheers
Helge

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An: Stéphane Ducasse
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Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message:

ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture.

Stef
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> Dear Stef,
>
> what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it?

A starter and a bit more advanced lecture: like the ones I did at Timisoara and Turino or Alex did in another city in Romania.
Check my lectures website. I also did one in switzerland in the past in a fachhoschule. And the idea is that we give also the lecture material so that people can
redo after us the lecture.

> Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel?

Not really for now.
Note that we do not pay the lecture. So in my case I always did the lecture for free. ESUG payed some of the trip expenses and my
team budget often participated to the rest.

Stef


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BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the lectures for free.
Because at the end this does not count.
This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I should work on something
else.

When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when
I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this community, this makes me really think.
After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should have just run after money.
I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really changing the world and Smalltalk does not
look in the picture.

Stef



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Stef,

It was C++ in the 80's and early 90's ... then java ... then ruby ... now javascript:)

You're not doing it for the money:) ... you're not doing it for the fame and glory:) ... you're doing it because it is your passion!

Keep up the good work and follow your passion...

Dale

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]>
| To: "Helge Nowak" <[hidden email]>
| Cc: "ESUG Mailing list" <[hidden email]>
| Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:26:11 PM
| Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk lecture in Africa
|
| BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the
| lectures for free.
| Because at the end this does not count.
| This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I
| should work on something
| else.
|
| When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the
| pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when
| I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this
| community, this makes me really think.
| After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should
| have just run after money.
| I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really
| changing the world and Smalltalk does not
| look in the picture.
|
| Stef
|
|
|
| On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Nowak, Helge wrote:
|
| > Dear Stef,
| >
| > what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or,
| > are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the
| > travel?
| >
| > Cheers
| > Helge
| >
| > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
| > Von: [hidden email]
| > [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Stéphane
| > Ducasse
| > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40
| > An: Stéphane Ducasse
| > Cc: ESUG Mailing list
| > Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo
| > Consortium
| >
| > BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take
| > the advantage to get the following message:
| >
| > ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you
| > happened to know good university that would be interested we would
| > like to sponsor a lecture.
| >
| > Stef
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| >
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