Re: ZINC - Kom dilemma Fwd: WADebugErrorHandler problem
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Paul, Phil, thanks for the ideas and information. I'll also try this way also to ensure every factor to be optimal. Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> ezt írta (időpont: 2016. jan. 19., K, 6:48): Phil (list) wrote _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi Everyone, Just for information: it seems that there is no nginx with upload module on Windows. However in Apache doc there is also an upload providing fairly the same. I'm now testing it on Windows and if it works I follow with the Smalltalk ending in my Seaside app.Robert Kuszinger <[hidden email]> ezt írta (időpont: 2016. jan. 19., K, 8:40):
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Hi Robert,
I was fascinated by the idea of having apache / nginx leave Seaside alone during a file uload until it is finished and tried to find out if something like that is available for Apache. I couldn't find such a thing, but I am sure our Kontolino App could benefit a lot from it, both CPU and memory-wise. So I'd be grateful if you could provide a link to what you found... Joachim Am 19.01.16 um 15:15 schrieb Robert Kuszinger:
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Robert,
so I took another attempt and found this: http://apache.webthing.com/mod_upload/ Is this what you referred to? Joachim Am 19.01.16 um 15:21 schrieb [hidden email]:
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Re: ZINC - Kom dilemma Fwd: WADebugErrorHandler problem
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On 19-01-16 15:15, Robert Kuszinger wrote:
> Hi Everyone, > > Just for information: it seems that there is *no nginx with upload > module* on Windows. However in Apache doc there is also an upload > providing fairly the same. I'm now testing it on Windows and if it works > I follow with the Smalltalk ending in my Seaside app. I had to compile it myself on linux, but that is a whileago. Stephan _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi Tobias, all,
I just added a first version Seaside-ExternalFileUpload package to the Seaside32 repository and currently writing up a blog post detailing the nginx configuration and all other steps for it. If I still have time tonight, I should have a first draft of the post online. Btw, we also have Ajax file uploads in Seaside 3.2
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Hello Everyone! I've tested the same on Win/Apache as promised. I was able to put the mod_upload to work but it produced weird result. I was able to catch the raw information coming from the Apache filter. But on the other side: the uploaded file in the temp directory was bad... I may need more time with Apache Upload to see what it produces.Johan Brichau <[hidden email]> ezt írta (időpont: 2016. jan. 31., V, 18:30):
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Hey there,
I did a round-up of the code and my text, so everything is here: http://jbrichau.github.io/blog/large-file-upload-in-seaside cheers Johan
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> On 05 Feb 2016, at 09:07, Johan Brichau <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hey there, > > I did a round-up of the code and my text, so everything is here: http://jbrichau.github.io/blog/large-file-upload-in-seaside Thanks a lot, Johan, very nice write up. One can only imagine what would happen, what we would learn, if you blogged more than once every two years ;-) Sven > cheers > Johan > >> On 31 Jan 2016, at 18:30, Johan Brichau <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi Tobias, all, >> >> I just added a first version Seaside-ExternalFileUpload package to the Seaside32 repository and currently writing up a blog post detailing the nginx configuration and all other steps for it. >> >> If I still have time tonight, I should have a first draft of the post online. >> >> Btw, we also have Ajax file uploads in Seaside 3.2 >> >>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 20:30, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 18.01.2016, at 19:58, Johan Brichau <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Actually, >>>> >>>> I was quickly trying to find Nick’s blog post on the wayback machine but it’s not archived :( >>>> >>>> I did find this: http://www.squeaksource.com/fileupload/ >>>> >>>> I did not check what’s in there but until I can take a look, here it is already ;) >>>> >>> >>> :D >>> >>>> cheers >>>> Johan >>>> >>>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 19:45, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18.01.2016, at 19:43, Johan Brichau <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 19:34, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For ss3 on GS, thats right. It actually still works well that way, but we don't have many files >>>>>>> over 6MB, and more and more packages are over at github so I don't see any need to >>>>>>> implement upload improvements there. >>>>>> >>>>>> True. I was just going to say it would not really help there since you need the file inside the db anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On the other system, however, we hat students trying to upload some 300 MB files. >>>>>>> In principle that was fine, but Nginx+FCGI+Seaside took way too long, hence my desire >>>>>>> to use nginx upload. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, I’m currently heads-down in some other things, so let me take a look tomorrow on this. >>>>>> This will work for Robert as well, of course :) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take your time :) >>>>> And, thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> -Tobias >>>>> >>>>>> Johan >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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I probably would need to write a lot less interesting stuff :) Thanks for the appreciation. Before promising to blog more, I really want to get a new Seaside website out of the door. Next, we need all the help we can get updating the documentation. cheers Johan _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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On 01/18/2016 06:00 PM, Robert Kuszinger wrote:
> *Usage*: An office need to receive large map / digital survey data files > from clients. Now they post it on CD or DVD disks, however the typical > amount is 100-200 Mb in one or two or more files (depending one who has > heard about ZIP and who hasn't :) - really! ). So we are trying to > create an upload portal where they could login and then upload files to > folders where folder name contains their ID and date. That's it. Interesting, I solved this bit in Kom waaay back: http://forum.world.st/Final-try-for-Kom-Seaside-file-upload-tuning-td98355.html regards, Göran _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi Johan,
Thanks for your blog post. I found Nick Ager’s blog posts regarding Nginx: http://nickager.com/tags/#nginx You might want to link to them from yours, maybe? Cheers, Bernhard > Am 19.01.2016 um 05:18 schrieb Johan Brichau <[hidden email]>: > > Hi Tobias, > > This is what we do since years :) > There was a blog post online describing all the details but I don’t find it anymore. > The only think I can find is Nick Ager’s reply when we had a little trouble setting it up [1] > > I might try to separate off the code to spare you some time. > It’s quite simple, actually. > > [1] http://forum.world.st/Using-nginx-file-upload-module-td3591666.html > > Johan > >> On 18 Jan 2016, at 18:56, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hey all >> >> just my 2ct while skimming the thread. >> >> I have upload problems with my seaside app >> and plan to tackle them by utilizing the reverse proxy. >> In my scenario, that is nginx, wich ships an "upload module" >> https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/modules/upload/ >> >> Given that, the upload is handled by the reverse proxy and only when >> the file is already on the file system, the backend (seaside in this case) >> would get a notification request. >> >> I plan to implement this within the next 6 weeks, so if I get going something >> usable, I'll probably hand it back to the seaside community :) >> Remind me if I forget ;) >> >> best regards >> -Tobias >> >> >> On 18.01.2016, at 18:00, Robert Kuszinger <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Sven, >>> >>> thanks for the demo. Zn without Seaside is just fine if it could work. A one-field form with only the uploaded file could work also. Some javascript addition on client side is acceptable - I'll see then. I understand that a simple file upload is also "composite" data with filename and binary content... >>> >>> Usage: An office need to receive large map / digital survey data files from clients. Now they post it on CD or DVD disks, however the typical amount is 100-200 Mb in one or two or more files (depending one who has heard about ZIP and who hasn't :) - really! ). So we are trying to create an upload portal where they could login and then upload files to folders where folder name contains their ID and date. That's it. >>> >>> No, SSH/SFTP or FTP with OS auth is not acceptable. They want pure browser upload as clients know this from their everyday life. And they could also add metadata about their uploads. >>> >>> Login, auth to existing client database is done in Seaside/Pharo in a few hours, works nicely. >>> >>> I would be great to create the upload receiving part also with Pharo at least. >>> >>> All this stuff is behind and IIS/ARR - tested for large uploads, worked well when extending timeout limitations is IIS (with Kom but eating memory, maybe not so much as Zinc now, but it had the codepage problem I wanted debug earlier). OS is Windows Server 2008 R2Datacenter Edition, IIS 7.5. >>> >>> I'm developing on Linux and testing on Windows Server 2008 configured to the same setup (IIS, ARR, etc.) >>> >>> This is the scenario. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> >>> Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> ezt írta (időpont: 2016. jan. 18., H, 16:30): >>> Robert, >>> >>> This is not such an easy problem, you have to really understand HTTP. >>> >>> BTW, such huge uploads don't seem a very good idea anyway, you will get annoying timeouts as well. I am curious, what is in those files ? >>> >>> Now, here is the key idea (pure Zn, no Seaside, quick hack): >>> >>> (ZnServer startOn: 1701) >>> reader: [ :stream | ZnRequest readStreamingFrom: stream ]; >>> maximumEntitySize: 100*1024*1024; >>> onRequestRespond: [ :req | >>> '/tmp/upload.bin' asFileReference writeStreamDo: [ :out | >>> out binary. >>> ZnUtils streamFrom: req entity stream to: out ]. >>> ZnResponse ok: (ZnEntity text: 'done') ]; >>> yourself. >>> >>> You would use it like this: >>> >>> $ echo one two three > data.bin >>> $ curl -X POST -d @data.bin http://localhost:1701 >>> $ cat /tmp/upload.bin >>> one two three >>> >>> With a 1Mb data file generated from Pharo: >>> >>> '/tmp/data.txt' asFileReference writeStreamDo: [ :out | >>> 1 * 1024 timesRepeat: [ >>> 1 to: 32 do: [ :each | >>> out << Character alphabet << (each printStringPadded: 5); lf ] ] ] >>> >>> $ curl -v -X POST --data-binary @data2.bin http://localhost:1701 >>> * Rebuilt URL to: http://localhost:1701/ >>> * Trying ::1... >>> * connect to ::1 port 1701 failed: Connection refused >>> * Trying 127.0.0.1... >>> * Connected to localhost (127.0.0.1) port 1701 (#0) >>>> POST / HTTP/1.1 >>>> Host: localhost:1701 >>>> User-Agent: curl/7.43.0 >>>> Accept: */* >>>> Content-Length: 1048576 >>>> Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded >>>> Expect: 100-continue >>>> >>> * Done waiting for 100-continue >>> * We are completely uploaded and fine >>> < HTTP/1.1 200 OK >>> < Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 >>> < Content-Length: 4 >>> < Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:56:53 GMT >>> < Server: Zinc HTTP Components 1.0 >>> < >>> * Connection #0 to host localhost left intact >>> done >>> >>> $ diff data2.bin /tmp/upload.bin >>> >>> This code is totally incomplete, you need lots of error handling. Furthermore, working with streaming requests is dangerous, because you are responsible for reading the bodies correctly. >>> >>> Also, if you want an upload in a form, you will have to parse that form (see ZnApplicationFormUrlEncodedEntity and ZnMultiPartFormDataEntity), you will then again take it in memory. These things are normally done for you by Zn and/or Seaside. >>> >>> I also tried with 100Mb, it worked, but it took several minutes, like 10 to 15. The #streamFrom:to: above uses a 16Kb buffer, which is probably too small for this use case. Maybe curl doesn't upload very aggressively. Performance is another issue. >>> >>> That is why I asked what is in the files, what you eventually want to do with it. Is the next processing step in Pharo too ? >>> >>> Maybe all that is needed is giving Pharo more memory. What platform are you on ? >>> >>> Sven >>> >>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 13:39, Robert Kuszinger <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sven, >>>> >>>> thanks for the comments. I understand all. >>>> >>>> Could you please clarify this: >>>> >>>> "Technically, it would be possible to write a Zn handler that can accept a large upload in a streaming fashion (and save it to a file for example), but I don't think that will happen with Seaside - so you will pull that all in memory." >>>> >>>> Is there a chance to create a streaming solution? Is it documented somewhere? Why do you think it won't happen with Seaside? Is there a Seaside set or design limitation? >>>> >>>> >>>> Answering on how it goes: >>>> >>>> 20 - 40 - 10MB upload in seconds. Now it seems to stuck on a ~ 120 MB upload. Pharo memory (windows OS) seemed to grow ~ 441 MB. "Space is low" warning window appeared. I've clicked on "Proceed" just for curiosity but no reaction in the Pharo gui... hmmm... >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2016-01-18 13:27 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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On 27-03-16 07:37, Bernhard Pieber wrote:
> Hi Johan, > > Thanks for your blog post. > > I found Nick Ager’s blog posts regarding Nginx: > http://nickager.com/tags/#nginx > > You might want to link to them from yours, maybe? > Yes, Nick Ager recently restarted his blog Stephan _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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