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Pato Acevedo

Re: etoys-dev Digest, Vol 87, Issue 1

Hi Charles:

> First, let me say how I impressed with the various developement teams
> involved (RPi, Squeak, eToys, Scratch). You all are doing amazing work!
>
> I have been googling and am attempting to learn how to boot the Raspberry
> Pi directly into eToys just like the option for booting directly into
> Scratch. Surely there is a relatively easy way to do this, but since eToys
> is not yet deployed on the stock Raspbian image, it does not yet look like
> it has the official support on the RPi install team. I am very thankful
> that installing eToys is as easy as "apt-get install etoys" - that is so
> totally awesome! Now, how to boot directly into eToys?

May be this link help:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7192

Patricio

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> As an aside, any idea why eToys is filed under "non-free" extensions for
> RPi?
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Charles Schultz

Re: etoys-dev Digest, Vol 87, Issue 1

Pato,

That looks like a viable hack. :) It is my understanding that RPi can boot into a special, slimmed-down VM version just for Scratch. Is that not the case? For instance, when in Scratch, I cannot simply exit Scratch and go back to the desktop - quitting scratch issues a shutdown. Can I do the same for eToys? Part of it is that I do not fully understand how "boot to Scratch" works, so I would like to learn that if I can.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Pato Acevedo <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Charles:

>
> First, let me say how I impressed with the various developement teams
> involved (RPi, Squeak, eToys, Scratch). You all are doing amazing work!
>
> I have been googling and am attempting to learn how to boot the Raspberry
> Pi directly into eToys just like the option for booting directly into
> Scratch. Surely there is a relatively easy way to do this, but since eToys
> is not yet deployed on the stock Raspbian image, it does not yet look like
> it has the official support on the RPi install team. I am very thankful
> that installing eToys is as easy as "apt-get install etoys" - that is so
> totally awesome! Now, how to boot directly into eToys?

May be this link help:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7192

Patricio

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> As an aside, any idea why eToys is filed under "non-free" extensions for
> RPi?
>
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Bert Freudenberg

Re: etoys-dev Digest, Vol 87, Issue 1

On 18.11.2013, at 13:08, Charles Schultz <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Pato,
>
> That looks like a viable hack. :) It is my understanding that RPi can boot into a special, slimmed-down VM version just for Scratch. Is that not the case? For instance, when in Scratch, I cannot simply exit Scratch and go back to the desktop - quitting scratch issues a shutdown. Can I do the same for eToys? Part of it is that I do not fully understand how "boot to Scratch" works, so I would like to learn that if I can.

You should probably ask this on the Squeak developers list, as there are many more developers subscribed to that than here:

http://lists.squeak.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/squeak-dev

>> As an aside, any idea why eToys is filed under "non-free" extensions for RPi?

Because the Debian gate-keepers do not like the image-based nature of Smalltalk development; it impedes their usual text-based workflow.

See /usr/share/doc/etoys/README.non-free

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