Re: [gsoc-mentors] Running under 'Smalltalk' org. name

> May be the solution would be to have a pharo specific proposal. Like that we would not have to argue.
> Thanks for suggesting us this action. I'm curious to see what mentors think about that because
> we have a legal entity for doing that.
>
> Stef
>
>
>
> On 08 Feb 2014, at 10:44, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> Stef is over emotional, going off-topic and is not able to see obvious arguments and facts. So let me rather wait for opinions of others.
>>
>> I'm not. I just do not like to see all our work thrown away because of your little ideas.
>>
>>> Remember: we the mentors will decide on Smaltalk GSoC matters, no ESUG no any other org.
>>
>> What are you trying to tell me? ESUG never decided anything in GSOC, we never interferred with the selection topics.
>> Now if your little ideas is to ask for Squeak/cuis/VW topics and to be fair go ahead it sounds like a fucking hyper cool idea.
>> You will just have to explain it to students not me.
>>
>> Now I would simply say that I will put you on my personal black list because I do not like to be insulted by you.
>> When you will have done a 1% of what we are doing for Smalltalk and for ESUG, come back to talk to me.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Janko
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > Janko
>>> >
>>> > > if you want to kill GSOC you will be responsible for it.
>>> > > The world is watching you. So be ready to get a lot of anger from people.
>>> >
>>> > > Stef
>>> >
>>> > And such an (expected) response if even stronger argument to support my proposal.
>>>
>>> Why don't you post this proposal to the students mailing-list or the esug mailing-list
>>> to see there reaction. Personally I do not need money to have fun coding with great guys.
>>>
>>> And for ESUG, GSOC is more work and responsibility. So frankly I do not care but
>>> do not expect that people respect you if you fail. Because right now this is really simple to get accepted.
>>>
>>> Do you think that all the smalltalk students will appreciate you? May be you do not care of people after all.
>>> And you are just jalous of ESUG working well.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
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> Le 8 févr. 2014 à 12:07, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> a écrit :
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Stef, I don't like the idea of having a Pharo-specific proposal. I think
> last year Amber topics were quite successful and I would really love to
> see that happening again :)
>
> Janko, about this issue, I don't see how this prevents anyone from
> submitting topics related to other dialects. I know for a fact that it
> wasn't an issue for me the previous years, and the students did an
> awesome job with Amber topics. The Squeak, Cuis, VW and VA mentors can
> for sure do the same, I never felt any pressure to submit Pharo-specific
> topics :)

> Cheers,
> Nico
>
>
>
> Stéphane Ducasse writes:
>
>> May be the solution would be to have a pharo specific proposal. Like that we would not have to argue.
>> Thanks for suggesting us this action. I'm curious to see what mentors think about that because
>> we have a legal entity for doing that.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 08 Feb 2014, at 10:44, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Stef is over emotional, going off-topic and is not able to see obvious arguments and facts. So let me rather wait for opinions of others.
>>>
>>> I'm not. I just do not like to see all our work thrown away because of your little ideas.
>>>
>>>> Remember: we the mentors will decide on Smaltalk GSoC matters, no ESUG no any other org.
>>>
>>> What are you trying to tell me? ESUG never decided anything in GSOC, we never interferred with the selection topics.
>>> Now if your little ideas is to ask for Squeak/cuis/VW topics and to be fair go ahead it sounds like a fucking hyper cool idea.
>>> You will just have to explain it to students not me.
>>>
>>> Now I would simply say that I will put you on my personal black list because I do not like to be insulted by you.
>>> When you will have done a 1% of what we are doing for Smalltalk and for ESUG, come back to talk to me.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Janko
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Janko
>>>>>
>>>>>> if you want to kill GSOC you will be responsible for it.
>>>>>> The world is watching you. So be ready to get a lot of anger from people.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>
>>>>> And such an (expected) response if even stronger argument to support my proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you post this proposal to the students mailing-list or the esug mailing-list
>>>> to see there reaction. Personally I do not need money to have fun coding with great guys.
>>>>
>>>> And for ESUG, GSOC is more work and responsibility. So frankly I do not care but
>>>> do not expect that people respect you if you fail. Because right now this is really simple to get accepted.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that all the smalltalk students will appreciate you? May be you do not care of people after all.
>>>> And you are just jalous of ESUG working well.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
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