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Re: smalltlak [Fwd: Basic questions before starting heavy working]

Paolo Bonzini-2
RK wrote:
> Dear Mr. Paolo Bonzini,
>
> I'm unable to post to the smalltalk list :( - our stmp server is windows
> based and the ISP (Chello-UPC) uses... I don't know what, but for the
> first one I get a greyslist warning and for the second one (chello.hu
> smtp) I have noo feedback. Nor my messages appear on the help-smalltalk
> list.
>
> Is there any alternative method for posting.

Use gmane.  Point your news reader (Thunderbird's okay) to the
news.gmane.org server, and subscribe to the
gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.gnu.general newsgroup.


> * Work in your image (.im) with object creation method calls, blox, etc,
> saving and reopening the image on the next wroking day. And then "file
> out" if you wan't to move to a new image - is that right? Could it work
> for me?

Yes.  Be prepared to report a lot of bugs, which I (or hopefully someone
else too) will be happy to fix.

Paolo


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Re: smalltlak [Fwd: Basic questions before starting heavy working]

RK-6
Paolo,

thanks! Nice.
I found some strange behaviour (not in the class with this name) in Blox
- could I report it here? What if I could solve it? Could I post a
solution here, or on the bugs list?

I'm not a C programmer, however I may be able to make changes in
smalltalk code.

thanks Robert


> RK wrote:
>> Dear Mr. Paolo Bonzini,
>>
>> I'm unable to post to the smalltalk list :( - our stmp server is
>> windows based and the ISP (Chello-UPC) uses... I don't know what, but
>> for the first one I get a greyslist warning and for the second one
>> (chello.hu smtp) I have noo feedback. Nor my messages appear on the
>> help-smalltalk list.
>>
>> Is there any alternative method for posting.
>
> Use gmane.  Point your news reader (Thunderbird's okay) to the
> news.gmane.org server, and subscribe to the
> gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.gnu.general newsgroup.
>
>



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Re: Re: smalltlak [Fwd: Basic questions before starting heavy working]

Paolo Bonzini-2
Robert kuszinger wrote:
> Paolo,
>
> thanks! Nice.
> I found some strange behaviour (not in the class with this name) in Blox
> - could I report it here?

Here or in the issue tracker of http://smalltalk.gnu.org/ (as you prefer).

> What if I could solve it? Could I post a
> solution here, or on the bugs list?

Sure.

Paolo


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Re: smalltlak [Fwd: Basic questions before starting heavy working]

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Paolo Bonzini <bonzini <at> gnu.org> writes:

>
> RK wrote:
> > Dear Mr. Paolo Bonzini,
> >
> > I'm unable to post to the smalltalk list :( - our stmp server is windows
> > based and the ISP (Chello-UPC) uses... I don't know what, but for the
> > first one I get a greyslist warning and for the second one (chello.hu
> > smtp) I have noo feedback. Nor my messages appear on the help-smalltalk
> > list.
> >
> > Is there any alternative method for posting.

I also can't post to this mailing list (now using Gmane) via Yahoo! Mail or
Gmail. Maybe there is a problem with the mailing list?



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Re: Re: smalltlak [Fwd: Basic questions before starting heavy working]

Paolo Bonzini-2

> I also can't post to this mailing list (now using Gmane) via Yahoo! Mail or
> Gmail.

Gmane is a NNTP interface, you cannot use it from Yahoo! Mail or Gmail.
  You can use it from Thunderbird.

> Maybe there is a problem with the mailing list?

Anyone who's been sending e-mail to the list, can you test replying to
this message?...

Paolo


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Re: Re: smalltlak [Fwd: Basic questions before starting heavy working]

Felix Dorner
Paolo Bonzini wrote:
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> Anyone who's been sending e-mail to the list, can you test replying to
> this message?...
>
>
To not make this a pure test message, I am completely new to gst. I
played around with squeak though. What are the main differences?
Somewhere I read that there's a Browser like in Squeak, is this true? I
couldn't find anything. I compiled gst through gentoo portage.





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Re: smalltlak [Fwd: Basic questions before starting heavy working]

RK-6

Hello Felix!

I worked and also played with several smalltalk. I could say that gst is
NOT like squeak or the others.

If anyone saw some similarities, that simply meant - I think - that he
saw the blox based class hierarchy browser of gst. Every class browser
in ST language implementation looks similar, that's all.

But meanwhile squek is a smalltalk with many browsers, gst is script
based by philosophy. However the blox browsers are at a really nice
shape and still developing.

I also use gentoo Linux, but I erased the version from portage:

emerge -C gnu-smalltalk

and downloaded the 3.0b sources from the gnu-smalltalk site, compiled
and installed. Start it after installing with:

gst-blox

It also supports the -I parameter for opening a saved image.
Be preapared - it is in development, but very-very promising - I do just
the same like you - experimenting with the GUI browsers.

best regards
Robert


> Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>
>> Anyone who's been sending e-mail to the list, can you test replying to
>> this message?...
>>
>>
> To not make this a pure test message, I am completely new to gst. I
> played around with squeak though. What are the main differences?
> Somewhere I read that there's a Browser like in Squeak, is this true? I
> couldn't find anything. I compiled gst through gentoo portage.



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