Re: [vwnc] vw7.7nc and OS X 64 bit mode not working - follow up

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Re: [vwnc] vw7.7nc and OS X 64 bit mode not working - follow up

T. Edwin King
Just to follow up with my experience, I installed 7.5NC and
reinstalled 7.7NC and 7.6NC (in Snow Leopard 32 bit mode, because the
installer fails in 64 bit mode).  All execute fine in 32 bit mode, but
when I boot in 64 bit mode only 7.6NC starts without failure - both
7.7NC and 7.5NC fail to start with the same error (described
previously).

So it looks like I'm stuck with using 7.7NC on a Windows 7 Parallels
VM for the time being.  I'm not a big fan of the X11 interface,
because it gives me flash-backs of developing Motif apps in C back in
college...<shiver>.

Todd King

>
> I don't have any experience with 7.5 on the Mac, so I don't know how it
> behaves on OS X 64 bit mode - I might try it out to see.
>
> But I have been running 7.6 in OS X 64-bit mode since October without any
> problems what-so-ever.  Which is why it is perplexing to me that 7.7 won't
> work in the same mode (unless I use the X11 VM).
>
> Maybe it has something to do with something simple like the installer
> installing the wrong VM?
>
> -Todd King
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Andre Schnoor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Am 20.01.2010 um 04:24 schrieb Todd King:
> >
> >
> >  I run OS X in 64 bit mode (Snow Leopard), and have had no trouble running
> >> vw7.6nc in that mode.
> >>
> >
> > This doesn't seem to be related to the VW version. I'm seeing this exact
> > same crash with 7.5 too. The code that seems to cause the crash hasn't
> > changed for a long time (if I don't miss something):
> >
> >
> > src/plat/unxUtil.c:1209
> > Fatal error: setting sys fd owner: Inappropriate ioctl for device
> >
> > Therefore I would guess there's some incompatibility with 64bit kernel
> > mode.
> >
> > This is a very serious bug, because most Mac Pro machines run in 64 bit
> > kernel mode nowadays.
> >
> > Andre
> >
> >

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Re: [vwnc] vw7.7nc and OS X 64 bit mode not working - follow up

Andre Schnoor

Am 25.01.2010 um 16:30 schrieb Todd King:

> Just to follow up with my experience, I installed 7.5NC and
> reinstalled 7.7NC and 7.6NC (in Snow Leopard 32 bit mode, because the
> installer fails in 64 bit mode).  All execute fine in 32 bit mode, but
> when I boot in 64 bit mode only 7.6NC starts without failure - both
> 7.7NC and 7.5NC fail to start with the same error (described
> previously).

Interesting. The source file where the error occurs hasn't changed  
(unxUtil.c). The reason for the crash must therefore be elsewhere. I  
would not be surprised if there was a race condition behind this that  
introduces some randomness. I bet, if you try 7.6NC multiple times, it  
will crash too.

Andre

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Re: [vwnc] vw7.7nc and OS X 64 bit mode not working - follow up

T. Edwin King
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I took you suggestion, Andre, and tried to open multiple instances of vw7.6nc to see if I could get it to fail to start.  I wrote a shell script to open 20 instances simultaneously, and even after several script runs, 7.6NC opens fine every time.  And on the last run, I performed some menial tasks in each instance, like opening a code browser, etc, to see if each instance was useable, and they all worked fine.

That's about all I can do, unless it would help if I can turn on some diagnostics or something when I try to start vw7.7nc and send a report to Cincom.

Regards,
Todd Edwin King


>
>> Just to follow up with my experience, I installed 7.5NC and
>> reinstalled 7.7NC and 7.6NC (in Snow Leopard 32 bit mode, because the
>> installer fails in 64 bit mode).  All execute fine in 32 bit mode, but
>> when I boot in 64 bit mode only 7.6NC starts without failure - both
>> 7.7NC and 7.5NC fail to start with the same error (described
>> previously).
>
> Interesting. The source file where the error occurs hasn't changed  
> (unxUtil.c). The reason for the crash must therefore be elsewhere. I  
> would not be surprised if there was a race condition behind this that  
> introduces some randomness. I bet, if you try 7.6NC multiple times, it  
> will crash too.
>
> Andre


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Re: [vwnc] vw7.7nc and OS X 64 bit mode not working - follow up

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Am 26.01.10 02:16, schrieb Todd King:

> I took you suggestion, Andre, and tried to open multiple instances of vw7.6nc to see if I could get it to fail to start.  I wrote a shell script to open 20 instances simultaneously, and even after several script runs, 7.6NC opens fine every time.  And on the last run, I performed some menial tasks in each instance, like opening a code browser, etc, to see if each instance was useable, and they all worked fine.
>
> That's about all I can do, unless it would help if I can turn on some diagnostics or something when I try to start vw7.7nc and send a report to Cincom.
>
> Regards,
> Todd Edwin King
>
>
>>
>>> Just to follow up with my experience, I installed 7.5NC and
>>> reinstalled 7.7NC and 7.6NC (in Snow Leopard 32 bit mode, because the
>>> installer fails in 64 bit mode).  All execute fine in 32 bit mode, but
>>> when I boot in 64 bit mode only 7.6NC starts without failure - both
>>> 7.7NC and 7.5NC fail to start with the same error (described
>>> previously).
>>
>> Interesting. The source file where the error occurs hasn't changed
>> (unxUtil.c). The reason for the crash must therefore be elsewhere. I
>> would not be surprised if there was a race condition behind this that
>> introduces some randomness. I bet, if you try 7.6NC multiple times, it
>> will crash too.
>>
>> Andre
>
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