Hello,
Is there another mean of remote administration than VNC? VNC is nice, but if your internet connection is slow or buggy, it becomes hard to use. Is there a project about a command line interface (ncurses like) for Pharo? Also, how do you manage a lot of VMs? Is there some sort of monitoring and administration interface I can use? (I think that question is mostly directed at the seasidehosting.st folks) I think I saw an ESUG GSOC idea about that ( http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas#h-116 ). Best regards, Geoffroy _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
> Hello, > > Is there another mean of remote administration than VNC? VNC is nice, > but if your internet connection is slow or buggy, it becomes hard to > use. Is there a project about a command line interface (ncurses like) > for Pharo? > > Also, how do you manage a lot of VMs? Is there some sort of monitoring > and administration interface I can use? (I think that question is > mostly directed at the seasidehosting.st folks) > I think I saw an ESUG GSOC idea about that ( > http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas#h-116 ). we would love to have that :) > Best regards, > > Geoffroy > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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Hi Geoffroy,
I don't know about public projects, but here is what we do at Cmsbox. We use HTTP to interact with the images from the command line (we have several hundreds images running on each server, so its a bit more convenient than using VNC ;). It is a combination of bash, curl and Seaside. On the image side we have a simple request handler that calls methods with arguments passed via query strings. From the command line we can do stuff like "cbfor beta-testers disableLogin", which sends the message #disableLogin to all images in the beta-tester group. To manage the VM processes we use daemontools (http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html), and again various scripts to automate installation, configuration, version upgrading, etc. For monitoring we use Nagios, and Munin. Former also uses the HTTP interface to check images for their health. Maybe the tools Andreas Brotbeck implemented for GLASS may be useful for you: http://andreas.mindclue.ch/blog/Announcing+SeaShell HTH, Adrian On May 7, 2010, at 08:01 , Geoffroy Couprie wrote: > Hello, > > Is there another mean of remote administration than VNC? VNC is nice, > but if your internet connection is slow or buggy, it becomes hard to > use. Is there a project about a command line interface (ncurses like) > for Pharo? > > Also, how do you manage a lot of VMs? Is there some sort of monitoring > and administration interface I can use? (I think that question is > mostly directed at the seasidehosting.st folks) > I think I saw an ESUG GSOC idea about that ( > http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas#h-116 ). > > Best regards, > > Geoffroy > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
Hello Adrian,
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Geoffroy, > > I don't know about public projects, but here is what we do at Cmsbox. > > We use HTTP to interact with the images from the command line (we have several hundreds images running on each server, so its a bit more convenient than using VNC ;). It is a combination of bash, curl and Seaside. On the image side we have a simple request handler that calls methods with arguments passed via query strings. From the command line we can do stuff like "cbfor beta-testers disableLogin", which sends the message #disableLogin to all images in the beta-tester group. > > To manage the VM processes we use daemontools (http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html), and again various scripts to automate installation, configuration, version upgrading, etc. > > For monitoring we use Nagios, and Munin. Former also uses the HTTP interface to check images for their health. > > Maybe the tools Andreas Brotbeck implemented for GLASS may be useful for you: http://andreas.mindclue.ch/blog/Announcing+SeaShell > Thanks for the tips! Best regards, Geoffroy _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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This is VERY valuable information. It would be cool to have it somewhere. FAQ, website, book, I don't know.
Cheers Mariano On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Geoffroy, _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
on the book.pharo-project.org please
Stef On May 9, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > This is VERY valuable information. It would be cool to have it somewhere. FAQ, website, book, I don't know. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Geoffroy, > > I don't know about public projects, but here is what we do at Cmsbox. > > We use HTTP to interact with the images from the command line (we have several hundreds images running on each server, so its a bit more convenient than using VNC ;). It is a combination of bash, curl and Seaside. On the image side we have a simple request handler that calls methods with arguments passed via query strings. From the command line we can do stuff like "cbfor beta-testers disableLogin", which sends the message #disableLogin to all images in the beta-tester group. > > To manage the VM processes we use daemontools (http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html), and again various scripts to automate installation, configuration, version upgrading, etc. > > For monitoring we use Nagios, and Munin. Former also uses the HTTP interface to check images for their health. > > Maybe the tools Andreas Brotbeck implemented for GLASS may be useful for you: http://andreas.mindclue.ch/blog/Announcing+SeaShell > > HTH, > Adrian > > On May 7, 2010, at 08:01 , Geoffroy Couprie wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Is there another mean of remote administration than VNC? VNC is nice, > > but if your internet connection is slow or buggy, it becomes hard to > > use. Is there a project about a command line interface (ncurses like) > > for Pharo? > > > > Also, how do you manage a lot of VMs? Is there some sort of monitoring > > and administration interface I can use? (I think that question is > > mostly directed at the seasidehosting.st folks) > > I think I saw an ESUG GSOC idea about that ( > > http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas#h-116 ). > > > > Best regards, > > > > Geoffroy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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