Hey,
I was following the discussion about Class>>#name and Object>>#name so I checked what happened if I removed #name from Object. 1) The system did not blew up. I could open a browser and a test runner. 2) I could use spotter, look for a class, dive in, look for methods… Same for the inspector. 3) I ran all the tests in the image. - I saw some failures in GT* and Glamour. I ran them in a new image and they are not failing so maybe they are broken because of the change or some side effect of the tests? - Then I saw some failures of OpenToolTest and MBGroupInfoTest that *do look related* 4) I created a Package and it worked 5) I tried to create a class and it exploded with RBBrowserEnvironment DNU #includesKey:. This however explodes also in a clean image so I do not think it is related. 6) I could however create new methods... Of course integrating such a little change is still scary :). But I can propose a slice… Votes in favor? :) Guille |
Hi Guillermo et al,
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:31, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hey, > > I was following the discussion about Class>>#name and Object>>#name so I checked what happened if I removed #name from Object. > > 1) The system did not blew up. I could open a browser and a test runner. > > 2) I could use spotter, look for a class, dive in, look for methods… Same for the inspector. > > 3) I ran all the tests in the image. > - I saw some failures in GT* and Glamour. I ran them in a new image and they are not failing so maybe they are broken because of the change or some side effect of the tests? > - Then I saw some failures of OpenToolTest and MBGroupInfoTest that *do look related* > > 4) I created a Package and it worked > > 5) I tried to create a class and it exploded with RBBrowserEnvironment DNU #includesKey:. > This however explodes also in a clean image so I do not think it is related. > > 6) I could however create new methods... > > Of course integrating such a little change is still scary :). But I can propose a slice… Votes in favor? :) > > Guille Some months ago I did some more experiments, like you, please see this old thread (at the end): https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7241/Object-name-should-best-be-removed I am certainly willing to help. Sven |
Thanks you both.
I love your attitude :) Stef Le 10/11/15 11:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : > Hi Guillermo et al, > >> On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:31, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I was following the discussion about Class>>#name and Object>>#name so I checked what happened if I removed #name from Object. >> >> 1) The system did not blew up. I could open a browser and a test runner. >> >> 2) I could use spotter, look for a class, dive in, look for methods… Same for the inspector. >> >> 3) I ran all the tests in the image. >> - I saw some failures in GT* and Glamour. I ran them in a new image and they are not failing so maybe they are broken because of the change or some side effect of the tests? >> - Then I saw some failures of OpenToolTest and MBGroupInfoTest that *do look related* >> >> 4) I created a Package and it worked >> >> 5) I tried to create a class and it exploded with RBBrowserEnvironment DNU #includesKey:. >> This however explodes also in a clean image so I do not think it is related. >> >> 6) I could however create new methods... >> >> Of course integrating such a little change is still scary :). But I can propose a slice… Votes in favor? :) >> >> Guille > Some months ago I did some more experiments, like you, please see this old thread (at the end): > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7241/Object-name-should-best-be-removed > > I am certainly willing to help. > > Sven > |
Ok, so now I repeated what Sven did some time ago, logging each time #name was accessed.
As soon as I found some sender to #name, I removed it. Except from GT and versionner, as they are external projects that I could not add in my slice. So I prepared and committed a slice for issue 7241. This slice removes the method #name from object and fixes several senders. The ones that I did not fix are the following: ====== GT and Glamour ========= gtDisplaySummaryOn: aStream. self label isEmptyOrNil ifFalse: [ ^ aStream nextPutAll: self label ]. self description isEmptyOrNil ifFalse: [ ^ aStream nextPutAll: self description ]. aStream nextPutAll: self method name configurationBlockForProcessorsCreatedBy: aMethod ^ configurationBlocks at: aMethod name ifAbsent: [ self nullConfigurationBlock ] allowProcessorsFrom: aMethod configuredWith: aBlock self allowProcessorsFrom: aMethod. configurationBlocks at: aMethod name put: aBlock. portName ^self port name ====== Versionner ======= remove "search if I am present in other groups and remove myself from these groups, then remove myself from project dependencies" (self project groups select: [ :aGroup | aGroup dependencies includes: name ]) do: [ :aGroup | aGroup removeDependency: name]. self project dependencies: (self project dependencies reject: [ :dep | dep = self]). self project announcer announce: (MTProjectModelChanged project: self) MBGroupInfo>>name ^ self spec name Guille > On 10 nov 2015, at 4:05 p.m., stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thanks you both. > I love your attitude :) > > Stef > > > Le 10/11/15 11:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >> Hi Guillermo et al, >> >>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:31, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I was following the discussion about Class>>#name and Object>>#name so I checked what happened if I removed #name from Object. >>> >>> 1) The system did not blew up. I could open a browser and a test runner. >>> >>> 2) I could use spotter, look for a class, dive in, look for methods… Same for the inspector. >>> >>> 3) I ran all the tests in the image. >>> - I saw some failures in GT* and Glamour. I ran them in a new image and they are not failing so maybe they are broken because of the change or some side effect of the tests? >>> - Then I saw some failures of OpenToolTest and MBGroupInfoTest that *do look related* >>> >>> 4) I created a Package and it worked >>> >>> 5) I tried to create a class and it exploded with RBBrowserEnvironment DNU #includesKey:. >>> This however explodes also in a clean image so I do not think it is related. >>> >>> 6) I could however create new methods... >>> >>> Of course integrating such a little change is still scary :). But I can propose a slice… Votes in favor? :) >>> >>> Guille >> Some months ago I did some more experiments, like you, please see this old thread (at the end): >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7241/Object-name-should-best-be-removed >> >> I am certainly willing to help. >> >> Sven >> > > |
Thanks guille
I created two bug entries! https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16974/GT-Object-name https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16975/versionner-Object-name Stef Le 10/11/15 17:41, Guillermo Polito a écrit : > Ok, so now I repeated what Sven did some time ago, logging each time #name was accessed. > As soon as I found some sender to #name, I removed it. Except from GT and versionner, as they are external projects that I could not add in my slice. > > So I prepared and committed a slice for issue 7241. This slice removes the method #name from object and fixes several senders. > > The ones that I did not fix are the following: > > ====== GT and Glamour ========= > > > gtDisplaySummaryOn: aStream. > self label isEmptyOrNil > ifFalse: [ ^ aStream nextPutAll: self label ]. > self description isEmptyOrNil > ifFalse: [ ^ aStream nextPutAll: self description ]. > aStream nextPutAll: self method name > > > > > configurationBlockForProcessorsCreatedBy: aMethod > > ^ configurationBlocks at: aMethod name ifAbsent: [ self nullConfigurationBlock ] > > > > allowProcessorsFrom: aMethod configuredWith: aBlock > > self allowProcessorsFrom: aMethod. > configurationBlocks at: aMethod name put: aBlock. > > portName > > ^self port name > > > > ====== Versionner ======= > > remove > "search if I am present in other groups and remove myself from these groups, > then remove myself from project dependencies" > (self project groups select: [ :aGroup | aGroup dependencies includes: name ]) > do: [ :aGroup | aGroup removeDependency: name]. > self project dependencies: (self project dependencies reject: [ :dep | dep = self]). > self project announcer announce: (MTProjectModelChanged project: self) > > > MBGroupInfo>>name > ^ self spec name > > > Guille > >> On 10 nov 2015, at 4:05 p.m., stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Thanks you both. >> I love your attitude :) >> >> Stef >> >> >> Le 10/11/15 11:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >>> Hi Guillermo et al, >>> >>>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:31, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> I was following the discussion about Class>>#name and Object>>#name so I checked what happened if I removed #name from Object. >>>> >>>> 1) The system did not blew up. I could open a browser and a test runner. >>>> >>>> 2) I could use spotter, look for a class, dive in, look for methods… Same for the inspector. >>>> >>>> 3) I ran all the tests in the image. >>>> - I saw some failures in GT* and Glamour. I ran them in a new image and they are not failing so maybe they are broken because of the change or some side effect of the tests? >>>> - Then I saw some failures of OpenToolTest and MBGroupInfoTest that *do look related* >>>> >>>> 4) I created a Package and it worked >>>> >>>> 5) I tried to create a class and it exploded with RBBrowserEnvironment DNU #includesKey:. >>>> This however explodes also in a clean image so I do not think it is related. >>>> >>>> 6) I could however create new methods... >>>> >>>> Of course integrating such a little change is still scary :). But I can propose a slice… Votes in favor? :) >>>> >>>> Guille >>> Some months ago I did some more experiments, like you, please see this old thread (at the end): >>> >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7241/Object-name-should-best-be-removed >>> >>> I am certainly willing to help. >>> >>> Sven >>> >> > > |
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> On 10 Nov 2015, at 17:41, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Ok, so now I repeated what Sven did some time ago, logging each time #name was accessed. > As soon as I found some sender to #name, I removed it. Except from GT and versionner, as they are external projects that I could not add in my slice. > > So I prepared and committed a slice for issue 7241. This slice removes the method #name from object and fixes several senders. I can't find your slice in 5.0's inbox. What is its exact name ? > The ones that I did not fix are the following: > > ====== GT and Glamour ========= > > > gtDisplaySummaryOn: aStream. > self label isEmptyOrNil > ifFalse: [ ^ aStream nextPutAll: self label ]. > self description isEmptyOrNil > ifFalse: [ ^ aStream nextPutAll: self description ]. > aStream nextPutAll: self method name > > > > > configurationBlockForProcessorsCreatedBy: aMethod > > ^ configurationBlocks at: aMethod name ifAbsent: [ self nullConfigurationBlock ] > > > > allowProcessorsFrom: aMethod configuredWith: aBlock > > self allowProcessorsFrom: aMethod. > configurationBlocks at: aMethod name put: aBlock. > > portName > > ^self port name > > > > ====== Versionner ======= > > remove > "search if I am present in other groups and remove myself from these groups, > then remove myself from project dependencies" > (self project groups select: [ :aGroup | aGroup dependencies includes: name ]) > do: [ :aGroup | aGroup removeDependency: name]. > self project dependencies: (self project dependencies reject: [ :dep | dep = self]). > self project announcer announce: (MTProjectModelChanged project: self) > > > MBGroupInfo>>name > ^ self spec name > > > Guille > >> On 10 nov 2015, at 4:05 p.m., stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Thanks you both. >> I love your attitude :) >> >> Stef >> >> >> Le 10/11/15 11:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >>> Hi Guillermo et al, >>> >>>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:31, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> I was following the discussion about Class>>#name and Object>>#name so I checked what happened if I removed #name from Object. >>>> >>>> 1) The system did not blew up. I could open a browser and a test runner. >>>> >>>> 2) I could use spotter, look for a class, dive in, look for methods… Same for the inspector. >>>> >>>> 3) I ran all the tests in the image. >>>> - I saw some failures in GT* and Glamour. I ran them in a new image and they are not failing so maybe they are broken because of the change or some side effect of the tests? >>>> - Then I saw some failures of OpenToolTest and MBGroupInfoTest that *do look related* >>>> >>>> 4) I created a Package and it worked >>>> >>>> 5) I tried to create a class and it exploded with RBBrowserEnvironment DNU #includesKey:. >>>> This however explodes also in a clean image so I do not think it is related. >>>> >>>> 6) I could however create new methods... >>>> >>>> Of course integrating such a little change is still scary :). But I can propose a slice… Votes in favor? :) >>>> >>>> Guille >>> Some months ago I did some more experiments, like you, please see this old thread (at the end): >>> >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7241/Object-name-should-best-be-removed >>> >>> I am certainly willing to help. >>> >>> Sven >>> >> >> > > |
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