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I've added a Resources page to my new blog: https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. It is very much a curated list. I felt this was needed because when I visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number of links and options. It is possible to have too many choices. Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to obscure materials that people may not be interested in. As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that you believe I should consider, please let me know. |
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Thank you, Richard.
Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use. Thanks again for all your hard work! On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Very good, Richard -- this is helpful, and is a great page to refer people
to. The image(?) under "Miscellaneous" is broken (at least in my browser; the other links all work.) You might consider adding a link to "A Terse Guide to Pharo", https://gist.github.com/jdevoo/8e8866cd6087e05790841d0f20b2e377 Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos (postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects); you already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists". There are many more... -t -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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tbrunz wrote
> Very good, Richard -- this is helpful, and is a great page to refer people > to. > > The image(?) under "Miscellaneous" is broken (at least in my browser; the > other links all work.) Fixed. Thanks. > You might consider adding a link to "A Terse Guide to Pharo", > https://gist.github.com/jdevoo/8e8866cd6087e05790841d0f20b2e377 Learn Smalltalk in Y Minutes <https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/smalltalk/> has nearly identical contents and I cited it in the Smalltalk Resources section. > Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos > (postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects); > you > already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists". There are many > more... Perhaps you can provide a few more examples? Thanks. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license. Richard Sargent (again) wrote > Thank you, Richard. > > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use. > > Thanks again for all your hard work! > > > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog: >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. >> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number >>of >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. >> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to >>obscure >>materials that people may not be interested in. >> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. >> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that >>you >>believe I should consider, please let me know. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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Thanks. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <[hidden email]> wrote: Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S. I believe they do.
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I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to
an open source project. Also there appears to be free trial
version[1]. Dale [1]
https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent
wrote:
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I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm considered,
it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely. Dale Henrichs-3 wrote > I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an > open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1]. > > Dale > > [1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html > > On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote: >> Thanks. >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > > <mailto: > horrido.hobbies@ > >> wrote: >> >> Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S. >> >> Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license. >> >> >> I believe they do. >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard Sargent (again) wrote >> > Thank you, Richard. >> > >> > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point >> out that >> > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only >> personal use. >> > >> > Thanks again for all your hard work! >> > >> > >> > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng < >> >> > horrido.hobbies@ >> >> > > wrote: >> >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog: >> >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. >> >> >> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because >> when I >> >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the >> number >> >>of >> >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. >> >> >> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to >> >>obscure >> >>materials that people may not be interested in. >> >> >> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe >> will be >> >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. >> >> >> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others >> feel are >> >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links >> that >> >>you >> >>believe I should consider, please let me know. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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I don't know if it's still the case but "trial version" for VAST, in the
past, only meant that you could use the product forever but you didn't have the possibility to create an executable iirc. On 2020-01-28 20:37, horrido wrote: > I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm considered, > it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely. > > > > Dale Henrichs-3 wrote >> I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an >> open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1]. >> >> Dale >> >> [1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html >> >> On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote: >>> Thanks. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido < >> horrido.hobbies@ >> >> > <mailto: >> horrido.hobbies@ >> >> wrote: >>> Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S. >>> >>> Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license. >>> >>> >>> I believe they do. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard Sargent (again) wrote >>> > Thank you, Richard. >>> > >>> > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point >>> out that >>> > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only >>> personal use. >>> > >>> > Thanks again for all your hard work! >>> > >>> > >>> > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng < >>> >>> > horrido.hobbies@ >>> >>> > > wrote: >>> >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog: >>> >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. >>> >> >>> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because >>> when I >>> >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the >>> number >>> >>of >>> >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. >>> >> >>> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to >>> >>obscure >>> >>materials that people may not be interested in. >>> >> >>> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe >>> will be >>> >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. >>> >> >>> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others >>> feel are >>> >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links >>> that >>> >>you >>> >>believe I should consider, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > ----------------- Benoît St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth GitHub: bstjean Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) |
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If someone can confirm that this is still true, I'll update the Resources
Page. Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote > I don't know if it's still the case but "trial version" for VAST, in the > past, only meant that you could use the product forever but you didn't > have the possibility to create an executable iirc. > > On 2020-01-28 20:37, horrido wrote: >> I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm >> considered, >> it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely. >> >> >> >> Dale Henrichs-3 wrote >>> I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an >>> open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1]. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> [1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html >>> >>> On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote: >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido < >>> horrido.hobbies@ >>> >>> > <mailto: >>> horrido.hobbies@ >>> >> wrote: >>>> Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S. >>>> >>>> Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license. >>>> >>>> >>>> I believe they do. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard Sargent (again) wrote >>>> > Thank you, Richard. >>>> > >>>> > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point >>>> out that >>>> > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only >>>> personal use. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks again for all your hard work! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng < >>>> >>>> > horrido.hobbies@ >>>> >>>> > > wrote: >>>> >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog: >>>> >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. >>>> >> >>>> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because >>>> when I >>>> >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the >>>> number >>>> >>of >>>> >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. >>>> >> >>>> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point >>>> to >>>> >>obscure >>>> >>materials that people may not be interested in. >>>> >> >>>> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe >>>> will be >>>> >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. >>>> >> >>>> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others >>>> feel are >>>> >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links >>>> that >>>> >>you >>>> >>believe I should consider, please let me know. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: >>>> http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> > -- > ----------------- > Benoît St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Twitter: @BenLeChialeux > Pinterest: benoitstjean > Instagram: Chef_Benito > IRC: lamneth > GitHub: bstjean > Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com > "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:26 PM Richard Sargent <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes we do. I would say there are 3 main entry points to using VAST. We have an evaluation version that is intended for those folks or enterprises interested in the platform and our professional services for their commercial needs. The second two entry points are more a measure of goodwill and community investment. They don't tend to impact our commercial business model favorably or unfavorably, but we are glad to participate. Those are academic licenses, available to professors and their students. We also offer, or sometimes donate, open-source licenses of VAST to students, attendees of our technical workshops or folks that give their time to community involvement. And this is not something new: it's there in our websites since a long time: Hope this clarifies. Mariano Martinez Peck Email: [hidden email] Twitter: @MartinezPeck |
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:35 PM Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users <[hidden email]> wrote: I don't know if it's still the case but "trial version" for VAST, in the No, that's not the case and AFAIK it has never been. The correct statement is what I said before: 1) Trial versions are 45 days limit 2) Trial versions are the full version of the product, that is, there is no kind of limit or missing functionality (like creating executables). Best, Mariano Martinez Peck Email: [hidden email] Twitter: @MartinezPeck |
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Hi Richard
For Dolphin Smalltalk there are youtube videos by Andy Bower (co-creator of Dolphin) showing Dolphin Successfully running in MacOS under Wineskin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9HhHFJn5gg). It should almost certainly run under Wine as well. So maybe you mighlt like to add that it can run under Wineskin at least. Vince |
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Thanks for curating a list of useful resources. Personally, I like the book "The Design Patterns Smalltalk Companion" very much. Maybe it fits your list too.
Best, Steffen
Richard Kenneth Eng schrieb am Tue Jan 28 2020 23:24:16 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit):
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horrido wrote
>> Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos >> (postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects); >> you >> already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists". There are many >> more... > > Perhaps you can provide a few more examples? Thanks. Here's a few: https://pavel-krivanek.github.io/pharo8/pharo.html https://pharojs.github.io/Demos/MatterJsDemo/ I like to group this one with a view of its source code: https://github.com/bouraqadi/PharoJS/blob/master/Pharo/PharoJsExamples/PhysicsSim.class.st https://youtu.be/R2rLr7Z1b8Y https://youtu.be/baxtyeFVn3w https://youtu.be/S2ovj-mW30A -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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I think SqueakJS would be a good addition for the Open Source resources:
https://squeak.js.org (Javascript based VM for running both headful and headless images both in the browser or (headless) in nodejs). And maybe Caffeine should get a mention in that same area (it uses SqueakJS): https://caffeine.js.org/ (live coding environment) Cheers, Erik -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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Hi Come to think of it, what has happened to Claus Gittinger’s Smalltalk/X (https://www.exept.de/smalltalk-x.html).
My German is feeble so I cannot understand most of it. But googling it brought me to Smalltalk/X jv-branch (https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/projects/stx-jv). That looks both interesting and open source. Vince |
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