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Sean P. DeNigris

Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

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Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;)

Cheers,
Sean

stephane ducasse

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

what do you mean?
because I get fog mails.

Stef

On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it
> difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;)
>
>
>
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> Sean
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Marcus Denker-4

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:30 AM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

> what do you mean?
> because I get fog mails.
>

The old list got a mail for every change done on the tracker…

We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit
too much.

People can easily subscribe just themselfs:
-> My Settings
-> Subscribe
-> Select ALL PROJECTS when creating the subscription

> Stef
>
> On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it
>> difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712.html
>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
>

Camillo Bruni-3

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

On 2013-04-06, at 10:36, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:30 AM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> what do you mean?
>> because I get fog mails.
>>
>
> The old list got a mail for every change done on the tracker…
>
> We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit
> too much.
>
> People can easily subscribe just themselfs:
> -> My Settings
> -> Subscribe
> -> Select ALL PROJECTS when creating the subscription
>

Most of it is documented on the wiki, here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W46

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

Administrator

In reply to this post by Marcus Denker-4

Marcus Denker-4 wrote

The old list got a mail for every change done on the tracker…

We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit
too much.

Well since it's a special mailing list dedicated solely to the issue tracker, why would it be too much? For me, I found it very useful to track progress in a far less intrusive way then having every update come to my inbox.

Cheers,
Sean

Marcus Denker-4

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

On Apr 6, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Marcus Denker-4 wrote
>> The old list got a mail for every change done on the tracker…
>>
>> We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it
>> might be a bit
>> too much.
>
> Well since it's a special mailing list dedicated solely to the issue
> tracker, why would it be too much? For me, I found it very useful to track
> progress in a far less intrusive way then having every update come to my
> inbox.
>

It's no problem to enable it… I will do it. (People then can decide if they
read the ML or if the configure FugBugz to send them a subset).

Marcus

EstebanLM

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

Hi,

To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense.
I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ).
With the filtering/labeling tools that every mail/webmail client has nowadays, it should be easy to the people who do not want to receive them to filter out or to put them in a separate place.

my 2c

Esteban

On Apr 6, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Marcus Denker-4 wrote
>>> The old list got a mail for every change done on the tracker…
>>>
>>> We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it
>>> might be a bit
>>> too much.
>>
>> Well since it's a special mailing list dedicated solely to the issue
>> tracker, why would it be too much? For me, I found it very useful to track
>> progress in a far less intrusive way then having every update come to my
>> inbox.
>>
>
> It's no problem to enable it… I will do it. (People then can decide if they
> read the ML or if the configure FugBugz to send them a subset).
>
> Marcus

Marcus Denker-4

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense.
> I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ).

Sorry, the bug racker sends a mail for every trivial change (re-categorization, whatever).
We will drown in mail, it makes no sense.

Marcus

EstebanLM

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)

Esteban

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense.
>> I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ).
>
>
> Sorry, the bug racker sends a mail for every trivial change (re-categorization, whatever).
> We will drown in mail, it makes no sense.
>
> Marcus

EstebanLM

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

but yes... even for this list or the other, it would be could be able to decide which kind of issue updates we want to be notified :S

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
>
> Esteban
>
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense.
>>> I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ).
>>
>>
>> Sorry, the bug racker sends a mail for every trivial change (re-categorization, whatever).
>> We will drown in mail, it makes no sense.
>>
>> Marcus
>

Marcus Denker-4

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
>
I am considering not to.

I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much.

Marcus

Marcus Denker-4

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
>>
> I am considering not to.
>
> I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much.
>

And if I remember correctly: didn't we do exactly that some years ago and decided to stop?
And that was with the old tracker, the new will generate at least 5 times the amount of mail,
maybe more.

Marcus

EstebanLM

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

In reply to this post by Marcus Denker-4

oh well... then, if it is just noise, looks like everything will be lost in the stack of useless mails instead what it should be: to promote the discussion of issues.

then I vote to not activate anything that will not work anyway :)

Esteban

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
>>
> I am considering not to.
>
> I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much.
>
> Marcus
>
>

Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

In reply to this post by Marcus Denker-4

Since any one can subscribe precisely to want they want, for me it's useless to have a spamming mailing list :)

(and one thing less to manage ^^)

Ben

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)

I am considering not to.

I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much.

And if I remember correctly: didn't we do exactly that some years ago and decided to stop?
And that was with the old tracker, the new will generate at least 5 times the amount of mail,
maybe more.

Marcus

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

Administrator

Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote

Since any one can subscribe precisely to want they want, for me it's useless to have a spamming mailing list :)

It's very useful to me because I turn off all mail delivery for the issue tracker list and view it through nabble. This way, my inbox is not flooded, and I can browse through and see exactly what interests me and click through those. The list is already set up, it's simple to turn on, and I've illustrated a use case.

Cheers,
Sean

stephane ducasse

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

In reply to this post by Sean P. DeNigris

I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.
Now that we use smalltalkhub we should be able to do it.

Stef
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

Administrator

stephane ducasse wrote

I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.

Yes! It'd also be great if the integration update emails linked to the monkey mirror instead of fogbugz, so we could get details without logging into fbz. I'm sometimes on the road without my credentials (1Password is a blessing and a curse;)) and would like to see what's going on, but can't get past the fbz login screen. Also, obviously most people do not have an account there, but may want to follow along... Although it seems maybe the monkey mirror does not have permalinks? e.g. http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602?_k=67AyslvzTyZN3vYD seems to have a seaside session id and doesn't seem to work without it...

Cheers,
Sean

stephane ducasse

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

agreed
Can you open a ticket?

Stef

On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

> stephane ducasse wrote
>> I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that
>> I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.
>
> Yes! It'd also be great if the integration update emails linked to the
> monkey mirror instead of fogbugz, so we could get details without logging
> into fbz. I'm sometimes on the road without my credentials (1Password is a
> blessing and a curse;)) and would like to see what's going on, but can't get
> past the fbz login screen. Also, obviously most people do not have an
> account there, but may want to follow along... Although it seems maybe the
> monkey mirror does not have permalinks? e.g.
> http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602?_k=67AyslvzTyZN3vYD seems to have a
> seaside session id and doesn't seem to work without it...
>
>
>
> -----
> Cheers,
> Sean
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712p4680036.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)

Re: Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602 should work (for this particular one, there is a bug in penelope preventing it to be displayed)

But otherwise, you can always refer a bug by <a href="http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/#{bug_id}">http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/#{bug_id}

With Camillo we want also to add in fogbugz a "public link" button :)

Ben

On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:46 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

agreed
Can you open a ticket?

Stef

On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

stephane ducasse wrote
I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that
I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.

Yes! It'd also be great if the integration update emails linked to the
monkey mirror instead of fogbugz, so we could get details without logging
into fbz. I'm sometimes on the road without my credentials (1Password is a
blessing and a curse;)) and would like to see what's going on, but can't get
past the fbz login screen. Also, obviously most people do not have an
account there, but may want to follow along... Although it seems maybe the
monkey mirror does not have permalinks? e.g.
http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602?_k=67AyslvzTyZN3vYD seems to have a
seaside session id and doesn't seem to work without it...

-----
Cheers,
Sean
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