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abergel

Roassal3D is moving...

Hi All!

We are (secretly :-) working on Roassal3D. Teseo, from the University of Lugano, is quite enthusiast :-)

https://vimeo.com/141916068

Cheers,

Alexandre

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Uko2

Re: [Moose-dev] Roassal3D is moving...

Wow, this is amazing. Can I have this king of interaction in the old Roassal3D? Or a slave that will move ViDI to Woden? :)

No, honestly I’d really appreciate if someone can help me to add this flyover interaction to ViDI, so we can run some kind of controlled experiment on it (and for now it’s not an option to move ViDI to Woden).

Cheers!

Uko

On 09 Oct 2015, at 17:28, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi All!

We are (secretly :-) working on Roassal3D. Teseo, from the University of Lugano, is quite enthusiast :-)

https://vimeo.com/141916068

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Cheers,
Alexandre
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abergel

Re: [Moose-dev] Roassal3D is moving...

By flyover you mean having a text tooltip?

Alexandre

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On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, honestly I’d really appreciate if someone can help me to add this flyover interaction to ViDI, so we can run some kind of controlled experiment on it (and for now it’s not an option to move ViDI to Woden).

Uko2

Re: [Moose-dev] Re: Roassal3D is moving...

No, the control the interaction that moves you around the object when you drag mouse instead of "rotating your head” as in fps game.

Uko

On 09 Oct 2015, at 19:11, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

By flyover you mean having a text tooltip?

Alexandre
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On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, honestly I’d really appreciate if someone can help me to add this flyover interaction to ViDI, so we can run some kind of controlled experiment on it (and for now it’s not an option to move ViDI to Woden).

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abergel

Re: [Moose-dev] Roassal3D is moving...

Ah sorry.

Teseo has written the class OrbitController. I think you should be able to reuse it for Roassal3d Old. But why not trying to migrate to Woden instead?

Alexandre

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On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, the control the interaction that moves you around the object when you drag mouse instead of "rotating your head” as in fps game.

Uko

On 09 Oct 2015, at 19:11, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

By flyover you mean having a text tooltip?

Alexandre
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On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, honestly I’d really appreciate if someone can help me to add this flyover interaction to ViDI, so we can run some kind of controlled experiment on it (and for now it’s not an option to move ViDI to Woden).

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Uko2

Re: [Moose-dev] Re: Roassal3D is moving...

2 reasons:

1) something is always incompatible (I’ve tried 2 times already)

2) I have too many things hardcoded in Roassal3D subclasses. I have to move it into a proper model, and this will take time.

I’ll take a look at the Orbiter. Although as far as I remember Roassal3D and Woden have different interfaces.

Cheers.

Uko

On 09 Oct 2015, at 19:54, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ah sorry.
Teseo has written the class OrbitController. I think you should be able to reuse it for Roassal3d Old. But why not trying to migrate to Woden instead?

Alexandre
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On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, the control the interaction that moves you around the object when you drag mouse instead of "rotating your head” as in fps game.

Uko

On 09 Oct 2015, at 19:11, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

By flyover you mean having a text tooltip?

Alexandre
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Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, honestly I’d really appreciate if someone can help me to add this flyover interaction to ViDI, so we can run some kind of controlled experiment on it (and for now it’s not an option to move ViDI to Woden).

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abergel

Re: [Moose-dev] Roassal3D is moving...

Well, the example has been made in Roassal3d, built on top of Woden. Woden is low level. It may be suitable for game building, however for data visualization it is not the best.

Let us know how it goes!

Alexandre

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On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

2 reasons:

1) something is always incompatible (I’ve tried 2 times already)
2) I have too many things hardcoded in Roassal3D subclasses. I have to move it into a proper model, and this will take time.

I’ll take a look at the Orbiter. Although as far as I remember Roassal3D and Woden have different interfaces.

Cheers.
Uko

On 09 Oct 2015, at 19:54, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ah sorry.
Teseo has written the class OrbitController. I think you should be able to reuse it for Roassal3d Old. But why not trying to migrate to Woden instead?

Alexandre
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Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, the control the interaction that moves you around the object when you drag mouse instead of "rotating your head” as in fps game.

Uko

On 09 Oct 2015, at 19:11, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

By flyover you mean having a text tooltip?

Alexandre
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Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, honestly I’d really appreciate if someone can help me to add this flyover interaction to ViDI, so we can run some kind of controlled experiment on it (and for now it’s not an option to move ViDI to Woden).

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Offray

Re: Roassal3D is moving...

In reply to this post by abergel

Wow! Pretty awesome :-). I remember some "hacker" movies where 3D interfaces where used to navigate the system... now we're closer :-). This works with Pharo 4? Some package to install? (or is available only on 5?)

Cheers and keep the good work.

Offray

On 09/10/15 10:28, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

Hi All!

We are (secretly :-) working on Roassal3D. Teseo, from the University of Lugano, is quite enthusiast :-)

https://vimeo.com/141916068

Cheers,

Alexandre

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