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Yes, on everything you said.
Cheers Philippe 2008/4/7, Boris Popov <[hidden email]>: > > > > I am so confused, people are talking about two different things in the same > thread. Most seaside can do is _produce_ SVG, its the browsers/plugin job to > _render_ it, so things like Cairo and Multigrain don't belong in this > discussion afaict. > > Cheers! > > -Boris (via BlackBerry) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [hidden email] > <[hidden email]> > To: Seaside - general discussion > <[hidden email]> > Sent: Mon Apr 07 09:11:48 2008 > Subject: Re: [Seaside] SVG Rendering Engine > > with a GPL license.... > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Wolfgang Eder wrote: > > > hi, > > the following looks interesting: > > > > http://www.antigrain.com/ > > > > cheers, > > wolfgang > > > > Gerhard Obermann wrote: > >> Hi! > >> I am looking for a SVG rendering example for seaside. > >> I would like to build a well integrated SVG rendering engine that > >> should work as an addon to Seaside. > >> I am not sure how to start. Maybe the RSS could be used as an > >> example? > >> Thanks for any insights you can share. > >> Gerhard > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> seaside mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > [hidden email] > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Exact!
We need a nice SVGCanvasRenderer with a nice set of brushes :) > Yes, on everything you said. > > Cheers > Philippe > > 2008/4/7, Boris Popov <[hidden email]>: >> >> >> >> I am so confused, people are talking about two different things in >> the same >> thread. Most seaside can do is _produce_ SVG, its the browsers/ >> plugin job to >> _render_ it, so things like Cairo and Multigrain don't belong in this >> discussion afaict. seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi!
I am little bit confused too.
From my point of view the following functions should be covered with a Seaside SVG implementation (first step).
- Nice SVG Renderer (maybe subclass of a 2d gfx Renderer)
- Basic set of SVG Elements (mainly Shapes, Text, Images,..) subset of SVG Tiny
- Standalone SVG documents
- Embedded SVG documents using the object tag (referenced with a callback ?)
- Callbacks on SVG elements (using SVG "a" element)
- Generated SVG XML should work in all Standard browsers
Not in the first step:
- Inline SVG .... too many open issues, different solutions for different browser; not full-featured
- SVG ECMA Scripting
- AJAX Javascript Library to move and or modify elements - AJAX Javascript Library to create or delete elements
- SVG full
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Gerhard
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7:00 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: Exact! _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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> - Basic set of SVG Elements (mainly Shapes, Text, Images,..) subset of SVG
> Tiny A full implementation of SVG tiny would be a good start. > - Generated SVG XML should work in all Standard browsers That's too limiting. For IE one has to install a plugin, and for the rest it just works (as usual). I think this is easy to communicate, if you have a graphical application that people have to use a real browser or install a plugin. > - SVG ECMA Scripting > - AJAX Javascript Library to move and or modify elements > - AJAX Javascript Library to create or delete elements Prototype and script.aculo.us should work to some extent with SVG nodes. At least in FireFox, Safari and Opera. In most cases it makes sense to have propre fallback implementations anyway. > > We need a nice SVGCanvasRenderer with a nice set of brushes :) I know / have heard of at least 3 SVG implementations in Seaside. It is rather disappointing that nobody takes the time to publish his solution to SqueakSource. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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>>> We need a nice SVGCanvasRenderer with a nice set of brushes :)
> > I know / have heard of at least 3 SVG implementations in Seaside. It > is rather disappointing that nobody takes the time to publish his > solution to SqueakSource. I can understand your disappointement when I see all the excellent you are doing for the community! Stef _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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> How can I find out about unicode characters?
Are you using WAKomEncoded39? I cannot reproduce it with WAKomEncoded. WAKomEncoded39 should not be used together with certain versions of Kom. To quote Philippe: - Squeak 3.9 und Göran Kom -> use WAKomEncoded39 - Squeak 3.9 und Giovanny Kom -> use WAKomEncoded - Squeak 3.8 und Göran Kom -> use WAKomEncoded - Squeak 3.8 und Giovanny Kom -> troubles Furthermore I suggest to use the released versions only (Seaside2.8a1-pmm.536), for example the ones you find in the one-click image. Seaside2.8a1-mu.540 is not merged with the latest code and contains some (to me unknown) changes related to encoding. Hope this helps, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Well i only know Sextant, but this seems to be not very usefull!
I didnt get it running in Seaside 2.9 (But should work in previous versions)
As i mentioned before, i would try to contribute as much as i can,
but ill need some good start point (e.g. Modelling and design of the base classes)
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Gerhard
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:
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2008/4/7, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]>:
> > How can I find out about unicode characters? > > > Are you using WAKomEncoded39? I cannot reproduce it with WAKomEncoded. > > WAKomEncoded39 should not be used together with certain versions of > Kom. To quote Philippe: > > - Squeak 3.9 und Göran Kom -> use WAKomEncoded39 > - Squeak 3.9 und Giovanny Kom -> use WAKomEncoded > - Squeak 3.8 und Göran Kom -> use WAKomEncoded > - Squeak 3.8 und Giovanny Kom -> troubles > > Furthermore I suggest to use the released versions only > (Seaside2.8a1-pmm.536), for example the ones you find in the one-click > image. Seaside2.8a1-mu.540 is not merged with the latest code and > contains some (to me unknown) changes related to encoding. In Seaside2.8a1-pmm.540 the class comments read: WAKomEncoded: provide an adapter between Seaside and the Comanche web server with response/request conversion from UTF-8 to WideString and back in Squeak 3.8 or later. see WAKom Use me if you have either Squeak 3.8 and an old version of KomHttpServer or Squeak 3.9 and a new version of KomHttpServer. Squeak 3.8 and an new version of KomHttpServer are likely to cause problems. If you use Squeak 3.9 or later and an earlier version of KomHttpServer se WAKomEncoded39. definition of a new version of Kom: - SqueakMap: KomHttpServer 7.0.5 or later - Monticello: KomHttpServer KomHttpServer-RJT.23 or later, especially KomHttpServer-gc.27 or later images in which you should use WAKomEncoded - the Seaside One-Click image - a recent squeak-web image from Damien WAKomEncoded39: I have the same resposibility like WAKomEncoded except that I'm for Squeak 3.9 and old version of KomHttpServer. See class comment of WAKomEncoded for more details. In general I should not be used anymore. Together with issue 50 and all the other fixes since Seaside2.8a1-lr.518 this would make a nice 2.8.1 maintenance release IMHO. Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi folks!
Well, I still can't really say, why I had these problems, but I solved it. I just reinstalled an older Version of the seaside2.8a1 package and installed the .540 version again and everything was fine again. It didn't make any difference using WAKom or WAKomEncoded39... I'm using the SOAP-OPERA package for server commincation and RFB-Server for VNC plugin. Maybe there I just overloaded some seaside important features of WAKom. There's definitely now seaside bug! The only problem I still got is, that every time I change and save a methode in the seaside classbrowser, every line starts with that "BoxCharacter" in the beginning. Is there anybody else using SOAP within his Seaside application? I still have some trouble with the XSD decoding... Anyway! I absolutely love Seaside and hope that instantiations will soon release there 8.0 Version!!! There's hi potential in the german financial and insurance sector! @Phillippe: I think your information might have included the right solution, but I alread reloaded everything ;-( Thanks a lot for your efforts! Have a nice day at the seaside!!! Sebastian ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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> The only problem I still got is, that every time I change and save a
> methode in the seaside classbrowser, every line starts with that > "BoxCharacter" in the beginning. That's a well known Seaside bug for over 100 years. I finally ended the desperate waiting and created a bug report: http://code.google.com/p/seaside/issues/list?ts=1207635257&thanks=53 The reason for the problem is that the web is using CRLF as a line terminator. Squeak only uses CR and displays the LF as an unprintable character. Or something like that. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Sorry the link is actually:
http://code.google.com/p/seaside/issues/detail?id=53 On 4/8/08, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > > The only problem I still got is, that every time I change and save a > > methode in the seaside classbrowser, every line starts with that > > "BoxCharacter" in the beginning. > > > That's a well known Seaside bug for over 100 years. I finally ended > the desperate waiting and created a bug report: > > http://code.google.com/p/seaside/issues/list?ts=1207635257&thanks=53 > > The reason for the problem is that the web is using CRLF as a line > terminator. Squeak only uses CR and displays the LF as an unprintable > character. Or something like that. > > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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