Scat/Scratch on Amber

Previous Topic Next Topic
 
classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
6 messages Options
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Scat/Scratch on Amber

Dave Mason
Is anyone working on this?  It would be really nice to be able to get Scratch running in the browser!

I'd cc to the Scat mailing list, but I don't see one.

../Dave
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Scat/Scratch on Amber

Dave Mason

On 2012-Mar-22, at 11:27 , Dave Mason wrote:

> Is anyone working on this?  It would be really nice to be able to get Scratch running in the browser!

After sending this, I came up with a name for the project: Scamper (or possibly Scamber), with a logo that is a kitten scampering.

../Dave
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Scat/Scratch on Amber

Bernat Romagosa
In reply to this post by Dave Mason
Hi Dave,

I was one of the core devs in Scat, and AFAIK nobody's working on this. What's more, we abandoned the project a couple months ago..

However, you may wanna take a look at Snap, which is a Javascript port of Scratch that's being written by the guys at Berkeley (I think one of them is in this mailing list), exactly the same ones who wrote morphic.js. Actually, Snap is written on top of morphic.js.


It's really amazing how far they got in so little time!

When I started playing with morphic.js and Amber I found a couple of difficulties that I can't remember anymore, but it may be worth trying again...

Good luck!

Bernat.

2012/3/22 Dave Mason <[hidden email]>
Is anyone working on this?  It would be really nice to be able to get Scratch running in the browser!

I'd cc to the Scat mailing list, but I don't see one.

../Dave



--
Bernat Romagosa.
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Scat/Scratch on Amber

SergeStinckwich
In reply to this post by Dave Mason
Dear Dave,

the mailing-list is here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/scat-project

Regards

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Dave Mason <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Is anyone working on this?  It would be really nice to be able to get Scratch running in the browser!
>
> I'd cc to the Scat mailing list, but I don't see one.
>
> ../Dave



--
Serge Stinckwich
UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://doesnotunderstand.org/
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Scat/Scratch on Amber

Dave Mason
In reply to this post by Bernat Romagosa
Hi Bernat & Serge,

On 2012-Mar-22, at 11:46 , Bernat Romagosa wrote:

> I was one of the core devs in Scat, and AFAIK nobody's working on this. What's more, we abandoned the project a couple months ago..

Why?  Just because Snap was moving on the browser?

> However, you may wanna take a look at Snap, which is a Javascript port of Scratch that's being written by the guys at Berkeley (I think one of them is in this mailing list), exactly the same ones who wrote morphic.js. Actually, Snap is written on top of morphic.js.
>
> Here's the link: http://chirp.scratchr.org/dl/experimental/JsMorphic/nasciturus.html
>
> It's really amazing how far they got in so little time!
>
> When I started playing with morphic.js and Amber I found a couple of difficulties that I can't remember anymore, but it may be worth trying again...

OK, and I see the last changes to Scat and the mailing list were in December.

Irfan and I are keen to maintain the Smalltalk version, so can we get on the committers list, or should we start our own Monticello repository?

While I agree that Snap is cool, I'm really more interested in Scat and the Smalltalk version on the desktop for our immediate needs, and to look at Scat on Amber for the browser in the longer term.

Thanks for all the progress you have made in getting it to the current place.  It looks good!

../Dave
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Scat/Scratch on Amber

SergeStinckwich
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Dave Mason <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Bernat & Serge,

Dear Dave,

> On 2012-Mar-22, at 11:46 , Bernat Romagosa wrote:
>
>> I was one of the core devs in Scat, and AFAIK nobody's working on this. What's more, we abandoned the project a couple months ago..
>
> Why?  Just because Snap was moving on the browser?
>
>> However, you may wanna take a look at Snap, which is a Javascript port of Scratch that's being written by the guys at Berkeley (I think one of them is in this mailing list), exactly the same ones who wrote morphic.js. Actually, Snap is written on top of morphic.js.
>>
>> Here's the link: http://chirp.scratchr.org/dl/experimental/JsMorphic/nasciturus.html
>>
>> It's really amazing how far they got in so little time!
>>
>> When I started playing with morphic.js and Amber I found a couple of difficulties that I can't remember anymore, but it may be worth trying again...
>
> OK, and I see the last changes to Scat and the mailing list were in December.
>
> Irfan and I are keen to maintain the Smalltalk version, so can we get on the committers list, or should we start our own Monticello repository?

There is no problem if you want to continue the good work initiate by
Bernat. I could add you as on the monticello repository and Google
code website if you want.

> While I agree that Snap is cool, I'm really more interested in Scat and the Smalltalk version on the desktop for our immediate needs, and to look at Scat on Amber for the browser in the longer term.

I'm not sure that the current scat version could be used on the
browser. The idea of Bernat of using Snap is better i guess if you
want to have a browser version.

But you are more than welcome if you want to continue the work on the
desktop version.

> Thanks for all the progress you have made in getting it to the current place.  It looks good!

I think we should continue this discussion on the scat mailing-list
instead of using the amber ml.

Regards,
--
Serge Stinckwich
UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://doesnotunderstand.org/