Seaside as a General Purpose GUI
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Hi All,I’m trying to use Pharo as a development platform for a GUI application, and have found it exceedingly tedious to create anything beyond a simple two or three pane GUI.So I’m looking to Seaside to create the GUI, partly because it has great documentation, and partly because I can use CSS for a lot of the formatting.So my questions are, has anybody else done this, and what was it like? Is there a way to create a pop-up window in Seaside? Any other comments.Craig_______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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I would love to see an option to boot Pharo/Squeak with something besides Morphic and to have the Seasiside renderContentOn: idiom be the tool of choice. I don't have the chops (yet) to implement this.
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Craig, We have put seaBreeze on top of Seaside for exactly this purpose. You can get seaBreeze as part of Cincom Smalltalk (http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/developer-community/trying-cincom-smalltalk/try-cincom-smalltalk/) Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 Von: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
Im Auftrag von Craig Hi All,
I’m trying to use Pharo as a development platform for a GUI application, and have found it exceedingly tedious to create anything beyond a simple two or three pane GUI.
So I’m looking to Seaside to create the GUI, partly because it has great documentation, and partly because I can use CSS for a lot of the formatting.
So my questions are,
has anybody else done this, and what was it like?
Is there a way to create a pop-up window in Seaside?
Any other comments.
Craig
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> We have put seaBreeze on top of Seaside for exactly this purpose. You can
get seaBreeze as part of > Cincom Smalltalk (http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/developer-community/trying-cincom-small talk/try-cincom-smalltalk/) > > Georg Thanks Georg, however the Cincom licence is an issue to me. Craig _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Some people used XUL for that but I don't know the status of the projet (from Smalltalk side and Mozilla side). There are some possibilities with https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit and Amber. Node-Webkit is basically a Chromium window and Node.js combined together.On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Craig <[hidden email]> wrote: > We have put seaBreeze on top of Seaside for exactly this purpose. You can _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Craig,
Have you spoken to a Cincom sales representative to find a solution to you license issue? By the way, seaBreeze has MIT license and may be ported to any other Smalltalk. We have tested, the task is doable. So maybe you can do the port to your Smalltalk system of choice. Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Craig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. November 2014 08:10 An: 'Seaside - general discussion' Betreff: RE: [Seaside] Seaside as a General Purpose GUI > We have put seaBreeze on top of Seaside for exactly this purpose. You can get seaBreeze as part of > Cincom Smalltalk (http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/developer-community/trying-cincom-small talk/try-cincom-smalltalk/) > > Georg Thanks Georg, however the Cincom licence is an issue to me. Craig _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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2014-11-13 10:19 GMT+01:00 François Stephany <[hidden email]>:
> Some people used XUL for that but I don't know the status of the projet > (from Smalltalk side and Mozilla side). It's called Phobos and it can be downloaded using Configuration Browser in Phro 3.0. https://code.google.com/p/phobos-framework/ Mozilla XULRunner is and will be actively developer project and Phobos too. --- Pavel > > There are some possibilities with https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit > and Amber. Node-Webkit is basically a Chromium window and Node.js combined > together. > > For example, LightTable is made with node-webkit and ClojureScript. Replace > the latter with Amber and you might have a decent Smalltalk setup for > Desktop app (depending how you define smalltalk ;)) > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Craig <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> > We have put seaBreeze on top of Seaside for exactly this purpose. You >> > can >> get seaBreeze as part of >> > Cincom Smalltalk >> >> (http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/developer-community/trying-cincom-small >> talk/try-cincom-smalltalk/) >> > >> > Georg >> >> Thanks Georg, however the Cincom licence is an issue to me. >> >> Craig >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Really good to hear Pavel! So XULRunner is still the foundation (has it always be?) for Mozilla products? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: 2014-11-13 10:19 GMT+01:00 François Stephany <[hidden email]>: _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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For a long time the Firefox is internally only a XULRunner
application. So XULRunner developmnet goes hand in hand with Firefox progress. It may not last forever but to change it would require major changes and break Firefox modularity. On the other hand, FirefoxOS has no or very limited XUL support so there is a question if the desktop versions of Firefox will not go this way in (far) future. But for now, XULRunner works, Phobos works, it's quite easy to use and for some kind of applications it's ideal choice. And probably will be as long as desktops will be relevant ;-) Cheers, -- Pavel 2014-11-13 17:34 GMT+01:00 François Stephany <[hidden email]>: > Really good to hear Pavel! > So XULRunner is still the foundation (has it always be?) for Mozilla > products? > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> >> 2014-11-13 10:19 GMT+01:00 François Stephany <[hidden email]>: >> > Some people used XUL for that but I don't know the status of the projet >> > (from Smalltalk side and Mozilla side). >> >> >> It's called Phobos and it can be downloaded using Configuration >> Browser in Phro 3.0. >> https://code.google.com/p/phobos-framework/ >> >> Mozilla XULRunner is and will be actively developer project and Phobos >> too. >> >> --- Pavel >> >> > >> > There are some possibilities with >> > https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit >> > and Amber. Node-Webkit is basically a Chromium window and Node.js >> > combined >> > together. >> > >> > For example, LightTable is made with node-webkit and ClojureScript. >> > Replace >> > the latter with Amber and you might have a decent Smalltalk setup for >> > Desktop app (depending how you define smalltalk ;)) >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Craig <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > We have put seaBreeze on top of Seaside for exactly this purpose. You >> >> > can >> >> get seaBreeze as part of >> >> > Cincom Smalltalk >> >> >> >> >> >> (http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/developer-community/trying-cincom-small >> >> talk/try-cincom-smalltalk/) >> >> > >> >> > Georg >> >> >> >> Thanks Georg, however the Cincom licence is an issue to me. >> >> >> >> Craig >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> seaside mailing list >> >> [hidden email] >> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > seaside mailing list >> > [hidden email] >> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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