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Hi,
I have been lurking for awhile. I was just thinking, hey Squeak /Smalltalk is cool, but its not great for desktop apps because the UI is not consistent. So would it make sense to use Seaside with a web ui based runtime for the frontend? So you have a local webserver. Has anyone tried this yet? It should provide a more consistent and familar UI to the powerful Squeak or other Smalltalk backend. Thanks! Dave -- Dave Bauer http://thedesignexperience.org _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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I've done this approach(which means the application is still being used). My application
is kind of personal information manager + databse and built using seaside as backend, running as web server at local machine and application specific web browser. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Bauer <[hidden email]> To: Seaside - general discussion <[hidden email]> Sent: 08-08-22 06:49:01 Subject: [Seaside] Seaside as backend for desktop apps Hi, I have been lurking for awhile. I was just thinking, hey Squeak /Smalltalk is cool, but its not great for desktop apps because the UI is not consistent. So would it make sense to use Seaside with a web ui based runtime for the frontend? So you have a local webserver. Has anyone tried this yet? It should provide a more consistent and familar UI to the powerful Squeak or other Smalltalk backend. Thanks! Dave -- Dave Bauer http://thedesignexperience.org _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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I've done this approach(which means the application is still being used). My application
is kind of personal information manager + databse and built using seaside as backend, running as web server at local machine and application specific web browser. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Bauer <[hidden email]> To: Seaside - general discussion <[hidden email]> Sent: 08-08-22 06:49:01 Subject: [Seaside] Seaside as backend for desktop apps Hi, I have been lurking for awhile. I was just thinking, hey Squeak /Smalltalk is cool, but its not great for desktop apps because the UI is not consistent. So would it make sense to use Seaside with a web ui based runtime for the frontend? So you have a local webserver. Has anyone tried this yet? It should provide a more consistent and familar UI to the powerful Squeak or other Smalltalk backend. Thanks! Dave -- Dave Bauer http://thedesignexperience.org _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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SeasideXUL?
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Dave Bauer <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi Dave,
we are currently working on that direction, but we are yet on a very early research stage. We are currently working in VisualWorks, trying Swazoo/Omnibase(+a layer for transparent persistence)/Seaside. I hope that in a couple of months I can give you more feedback. Cheers, Andrés Dave Bauer escribió: > Hi, > > I have been lurking for awhile. I was just thinking, hey Squeak > /Smalltalk is cool, but its not great for desktop apps because the UI > is not consistent. > So would it make sense to use Seaside with a web ui based runtime for > the frontend? So you have a local webserver. Has anyone tried this > yet? It should provide a more consistent and familar UI to the > powerful Squeak or other Smalltalk backend. > > Thanks! > Dave seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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I do this for an internal app. I take a Seaside one-click experience
package, replace the image, and have my users download the ZIP and extract to a directory. I include some instructions on the download page and a shortcut icon to the localhost url. We're on windows, but I have some users that run Mac at home and they love that the distro works there as well. (They have to type in a URL). On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Dave Bauer <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have been lurking for awhile. I was just thinking, hey Squeak > /Smalltalk is cool, but its not great for desktop apps because the UI > is not consistent. > So would it make sense to use Seaside with a web ui based runtime for > the frontend? So you have a local webserver. Has anyone tried this > yet? It should provide a more consistent and familar UI to the > powerful Squeak or other Smalltalk backend. > > Thanks! > Dave > -- > Dave Bauer > http://thedesignexperience.org > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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You could probably just open a browser automagically on startup too. _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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In my opinion, Mozilla Prism http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/
could by an interesting approach for local web based Seaside application. On 22.8.2008, at 15:58, David Mitchell wrote: > I do this for an internal app. I take a Seaside one-click experience > package, replace the image, and have my users download the ZIP and > extract to a directory. I include some instructions on the download > page and a shortcut icon to the localhost url. > > We're on windows, but I have some users that run Mac at home and they > love that the distro works there as well. (They have to type in a > URL). > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Prism, thats a good idea.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 1:48 AM, M. Polák <[hidden email]> wrote: In my opinion, Mozilla Prism http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ could by an interesting approach for local web based Seaside application. -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Yes, this was what I did. For better performance I've moved to AIR tnhough later.
----- Original Message ----- From: "M._Pol?" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], Seaside - general discussion <[hidden email]> Sent: 08-08-23 15:48:56 Subject: Re: [Seaside] Seaside as backend for desktop apps In my opinion, Mozilla Prism http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ could by an interesting approach for local web based Seaside application. On 22.8.2008, at 15:58, David Mitchell wrote: > I do this for an internal app. I take a Seaside one-click experience > package, replace the image, and have my users download the ZIP and > extract to a directory. I include some instructions on the download > page and a shortcut icon to the localhost url. > > We're on windows, but I have some users that run Mac at home and they > love that the distro works there as well. (They have to type in a > URL). > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Yes, this was what I did. For better performance I've moved to AIR tnhough later.
----- Original Message ----- From: "M._Pol?" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], Seaside - general discussion <[hidden email]> Sent: 08-08-23 15:48:56 Subject: Re: [Seaside] Seaside as backend for desktop apps In my opinion, Mozilla Prism http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ could by an interesting approach for local web based Seaside application. On 22.8.2008, at 15:58, David Mitchell wrote: > I do this for an internal app. I take a Seaside one-click experience > package, replace the image, and have my users download the ZIP and > extract to a directory. I include some instructions on the download > page and a shortcut icon to the localhost url. > > We're on windows, but I have some users that run Mac at home and they > love that the distro works there as well. (They have to type in a > URL). > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Btw, all of your posts seem to show up in duplicate (at least in my newgroup
client), and appear outside the normal discussion thread (again, at least in my client). - Sophie ""S.J.Chun"" <[hidden email]> wrote in message news:[hidden email]... > Yes, this was what I did. For better performance I've moved to AIR tnhough > later. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M._Pol?" <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email], Seaside - general discussion > <[hidden email]> > Sent: 08-08-23 15:48:56 > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Seaside as backend for desktop apps > > In my opinion, Mozilla Prism http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ > could by an interesting approach for local web based Seaside > application. > > > On 22.8.2008, at 15:58, David Mitchell wrote: > >> I do this for an internal app. I take a Seaside one-click experience >> package, replace the image, and have my users download the ZIP and >> extract to a directory. I include some instructions on the download >> page and a shortcut icon to the localhost url. >> >> We're on windows, but I have some users that run Mac at home and they >> love that the distro works there as well. (They have to type in a >> URL). >> > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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