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One possible problem with new images on SeasideHosting is that if an image has been saved with a Cog VM, it cannot be run anymore with a standard VM (like the one on SeasideHosting).
Adrian On Dec 19, 2010, at 10:08 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > I still have probleme to make working seaside hosting. > > I took a fresh image from the last pier one-click distribution (no save > operation from the image), upload it to cyclades.seasidehosting.st, but > still the image can't be runned. > > Hilaire > > -- > Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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This is still not working for me too:
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2010/12/25 Hilaire Fernandes <[hidden email]> The uploaded image Pier.image is working with non COG VM _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Apparently all newly created accounts have been affected by a recent change (they were correctly created but didn't start images). I've fixed these accounts. In particular:
cyclades.seasidehosting.st thiago.seasidehosting.st menssana.seasidehosting.st The first two started up the images as expected. menssana also started but appears to have an additional problem (the uploaded image crashes on startup). Cyrille, if you need help with this, let me know. Sorry for the inconvenience... Cheers, Adrian On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:28 , Cyrille Delaunay wrote: > This is still not working for me too: > > [hidden email] > > 2010/12/25 Hilaire Fernandes <[hidden email]> > >> The uploaded image Pier.image is working with non COG VM >> So this is not the problem. >> The website is cyclades.seasidehosting.st >> >> Still Bad gateway error. >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> >> Le 21/12/2010 12:58, Adrian Lienhard a écrit : >>> One possible problem with new images on SeasideHosting is that if an >> image has been saved with a Cog VM, it cannot be run anymore with a standard >> VM (like the one on SeasideHosting). >>> >>> Adrian >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2010, at 10:08 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>> >>>> I still have probleme to make working seaside hosting. >>>> >>>> I took a fresh image from the last pier one-click distribution (no save >>>> operation from the image), upload it to cyclades.seasidehosting.st, but >>>> still the image can't be runned. >>>> >>>> Hilaire >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> >> -- >> Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi, I can only get a 2.84 image working on seaside hosting account, but I am
trying to use the examples in the book and they seem to be based on 3.x image. Every time I try the 3.06 image I get the "Bad Gateway" error and "Could not start image" messages. Can you help? allanneil.seasidehosting.st _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I found that if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with seasidehosting.st.
Non cog-vm can be downloaded from either:
HTH Nick
On 13 January 2012 04:34, Allan <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, I can only get a 2.84 image working on seaside hosting account, but I am _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Hi Allan, if you want to be a tester, Romain and I may have some time for smallharbour support next week. SmallHarbour is a public seasidehosting fork. It's running cog.
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://www.cara74.org
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/Pharo web deployment: http://www.alpha.smallharbour.org On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote: Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I found that if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with seasidehosting.st. _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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In reply to this post by Nick
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Nick Ager wrote:
> Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I found that > if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with > seasidehosting.st. > > Non cog-vm can be downloaded from either: > > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/ All of those VM are all CogVMs. Levente > http://www.squeakvm.org/index.html > > HTH > > Nick > > On 13 January 2012 04:34, Allan <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi, I can only get a 2.84 image working on seaside hosting account, but I >> am >> trying to use the examples in the book and they seem to be based on 3.x >> image. Every time I try the 3.06 image I get the "Bad Gateway" error >> and "Could not start image" messages. >> >> Can you help? allanneil.seasidehosting.st >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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OK anyone know where to download non-CogVM VMs? _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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I get the linux non-cog VM (which I thought was also called the stack or interpreter VM) from here: http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/ Specifically this file: http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.4.7.2357-linux_i386.sh There is one on the unix page for Mac. I don't know about windows. Did Allan mention what platform he was using? On 12-01-13 12:16 PM, Nick Ager wrote: > Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I > found that > if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with > seasidehosting.st <http://seasidehosting.st>. > > Non cog-vm can be downloaded from either: > > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/__pharo/view/VM/ > <https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/> > > > All of those VM are all CogVMs. > > > OK anyone know where to download non-CogVM VMs? > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 08:16:46PM +0000, Nick Ager wrote:
> > > > Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I found that > >> if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with > >> seasidehosting.st. > >> > >> Non cog-vm can be downloaded from either: > >> > >> https://ci.lille.inria.fr/**pharo/view/VM/<https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/> > >> > > > > All of those VM are all CogVMs. > > > OK anyone know where to download non-CogVM VMs? The VMs for all platforms are at <http://squeakvm.org> along with links to the Cog VMs. Any recent Squeak VM can run a wide range of images, including those intended for Cog as well as older images that may have been produced before Cog was widely available. Cog VMs provide significantly better performance, but are not able to run some older images. I would guess from the original post that seasidehosting is probably running an outdated standard Squeak VM. If this could be updated to a current Squeak VM, it would be then possible to run a wide range of Seaside images. If support for older images is not an issue, then a Cog VM could be used instead. However, I would guess that some images on seasidehosting may not be based on the latest Squeak or Pharo releases, in which case a standard VM would still be the better choice. In summary, what is most likely needed is just for seasidehosting to update its VM to a more recent version from squeakvm.org. HTH, Dave _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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I think the VMs used by seasidehosting are patched to restrict the user
in some ways, I guess it is not that trivial to make the changes. If i'm correct, Laurent and Romain have made those modifications on a CogVM. See the Smallharbour project. On 13/01/12 18:33, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 08:16:46PM +0000, Nick Ager wrote: >>> >>> Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I found that >>>> if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with >>>> seasidehosting.st. >>>> >>>> Non cog-vm can be downloaded from either: >>>> >>>> https://ci.lille.inria.fr/**pharo/view/VM/<https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/> >>>> >>> >>> All of those VM are all CogVMs. >> >> >> OK anyone know where to download non-CogVM VMs? > > The VMs for all platforms are at<http://squeakvm.org> along with links to > the Cog VMs. > > Any recent Squeak VM can run a wide range of images, including those > intended for Cog as well as older images that may have been produced > before Cog was widely available. > > Cog VMs provide significantly better performance, but are not able to > run some older images. > > I would guess from the original post that seasidehosting is probably > running an outdated standard Squeak VM. If this could be updated to a > current Squeak VM, it would be then possible to run a wide range of > Seaside images. If support for older images is not an issue, then a > Cog VM could be used instead. However, I would guess that some images > on seasidehosting may not be based on the latest Squeak or Pharo > releases, in which case a standard VM would still be the better choice. > > In summary, what is most likely needed is just for seasidehosting > to update its VM to a more recent version from squeakvm.org. > > HTH, > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside -- http://tulipemoutarde.be BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 CA: +1 778 558 3225 _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 07:25:50PM -0800, Francois Stephany wrote:
> I think the VMs used by seasidehosting are patched to restrict the user > in some ways, I guess it is not that trivial to make the changes. > > If i'm correct, Laurent and Romain have made those modifications on a > CogVM. See the Smallharbour project. I was referring to this problem: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 07:31:50AM +0000, Nick Ager wrote: > > Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I found that > > if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with > > seasidehosting.st. When an image is saved from a Cog VM, and that image no longer runs on some other VM, it means that the other VM is an old VM that does not have the necessary Cog compatibility features that were added to the standard VM some time after Cog was released. Dave > > On 13/01/12 18:33, David T. Lewis wrote: > >On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 08:16:46PM +0000, Nick Ager wrote: > >>> > >>>Later images should work, but not if you are using the cog-vm. I found > >>>that > >>>>if I opened an image with the cog-vm it will no longer work with > >>>>seasidehosting.st. > >>>> > >>>>Non cog-vm can be downloaded from either: > >>>> > >>>>https://ci.lille.inria.fr/**pharo/view/VM/<https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/> > >>>> > >>> > >>>All of those VM are all CogVMs. > >> > >> > >> OK anyone know where to download non-CogVM VMs? > > > >The VMs for all platforms are at<http://squeakvm.org> along with links to > >the Cog VMs. > > > >Any recent Squeak VM can run a wide range of images, including those > >intended for Cog as well as older images that may have been produced > >before Cog was widely available. > > > >Cog VMs provide significantly better performance, but are not able to > >run some older images. > > > >I would guess from the original post that seasidehosting is probably > >running an outdated standard Squeak VM. If this could be updated to a > >current Squeak VM, it would be then possible to run a wide range of > >Seaside images. If support for older images is not an issue, then a > >Cog VM could be used instead. However, I would guess that some images > >on seasidehosting may not be based on the latest Squeak or Pharo > >releases, in which case a standard VM would still be the better choice. > > > >In summary, what is most likely needed is just for seasidehosting > >to update its VM to a more recent version from squeakvm.org. > > > >HTH, > >Dave > > > >_______________________________________________ > >seaside mailing list > >[hidden email] > >http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > -- > http://tulipemoutarde.be > BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 > CA: +1 778 558 3225 > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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