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Jan van de Sandt

Serious problems with Pragma's

Hello,

We have deveopled some functionality that uses the new Pragma feature of VA Smalltalk 8.5.

But now we run into problems:

When you change the superclass of a class that contains one or more Pragma definitions you get a debugger.
When you load an application wich contains Pragma definitions into a new image the Pragma information is not found. The Pragma>>allNamed... methods all return an empty collection. After recompiling a method the Pragma information is available again.

Am I doing somthing wrong or are there still some bugs in the Pragma support of VA Smalltalk?

Jan.

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Jan van de Sandt

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Today I discovered another pretty serious problem :-(

Packaging an application that contains methods with Pragma's also
fails. The method EsRomerImageDumper(EsDumper)>>#compactMethods:
raises the error 'Shared bytecodes with different literals size'

Has anyone successfully used Pragma's in a packaged VA Smalltalk
application ?

Jan.

On 24 okt, 12:47, Jan van de Sandt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We have deveopled some functionality that uses the new Pragma feature of VA
> Smalltalk 8.5.
>
> But now we run into problems:
>
> - When you change the superclass of a class that contains one or more
> Pragma definitions you get a debugger.
> - When you load an application wich contains Pragma definitions into a
> new image the Pragma information is not found. The Pragma>>allNamed...
> methods all return an empty collection. After recompiling a method the
> Pragma information is available again.
>
> Am I doing somthing wrong or are there still some bugs in the Pragma support
> of VA Smalltalk?
>
> Jan.

Adriaan van Os-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

We're running into the same packaging problem here.

I have little pragma wish list as well:

find pragmas just by name (not by name and class)
find pragmas by name and class including all subclasses
browse result found pragmas in code browser in stead of array inspector
include pragmas in results when searching for senders of selector

Cheers,
Adriaan.

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SebastianHC

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Hi Adriaan,

good list so far.

I would like to add one little addition.

- Proper Pragma initialization with filed-in sources.

Currently you need to change and save methods after file-In. Only this way imported Pragmas get porperly recognized by VAST.

Regards,
Sebastian

Am 27.10.2011 14:12, schrieb Adriaan van Os:

We're running into the same packaging problem here.

I have little pragma wish list as well:

find pragmas just by name (not by name and class)

find pragmas by name and class including all subclasses

browse result found pragmas in code browser in stead of array inspector

include pragmas in results when searching for senders of selector

Cheers,
Adriaan.
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John O'Keefe-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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Jan -

I have opened Case 48916 for this packaging problem. Am I correct that you are packaging your code into ICs?

John

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Jan van de Sandt

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Hello John,

Thanks for taking a look at this issue. We were using the regular packaging procedure without ICs.

Note that there are more problems with Pragma's than just the packaging process. See my first mail.

Jan.

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:58 PM, John O'Keefe <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jan -

I have opened Case 48916 for this packaging problem. Am I correct that you are packaging your code into ICs?

John

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John O'Keefe-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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Jan -

I am having difficulty reproducing your problems.

1) For changing the superclass of a class containing a pragma, is it any change to the superclass or only some specific change? Can you capure the walkback and attach it?

2) For losing the pragma on loading an application, can you inspect one of the methods containing a pragma before you recompile it (i.e., (AClass>>#aMethodWithPragma) inspect)) and attach a sreen capture of the inspector window?

John

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SebastianHC

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Hi John,

I just exported a Pharo port from one of my manager.dat's to the new
mgr85.dat.

Loading the application failed due to an exception in
Behavior>>#variableAssociationAt: varName using: systemDictionary
ifAbsent: absentBlock
varName was an ESAtom (coming from the Pragma) which doen't understand
asPoolKey and asClassPoolKey.

talking about superclasses. Once I change a superclass, then none of the
Pragmas in the sub classes methods can be found any more.
I need to edit those methods and save them to have a proper behavior again.

Hope this helps a little.

Sebastian

Am 29.10.2011 20:06, schrieb John O'Keefe:

> Jan -
> I am having difficulty reproducing your problems.
> 1) For changing the superclass of a class containing a pragma, is it
> any change to the superclass or only some specific change? Can you
> capure the walkback and attach it?
> 2) For losing the pragma on loading an application, can you inspect
> one of the methods containing a pragma before you recompile it (i.e.,
> (AClass>>#aMethodWithPragma) inspect)) and attach a sreen capture of
> the inspector window?
> John
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Jan van de Sandt

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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Hello,

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 8:06 PM, John O'Keefe <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jan -

I am having difficulty reproducing your problems.

1) For changing the superclass of a class containing a pragma, is it any change to the superclass or only some specific change? Can you capure the walkback and attach it?

Steps to reproduce:

1: Define ClassA, a subclass of Object

2. Define ClassB, a subclass of ClassA

3: Add a method with a pragma to ClassB

4: Change the superclass of ClassB to Object

5: A debugger appears, see attached text file.

2) For losing the pragma on loading an application, can you inspect one of the methods containing a pragma before you recompile it (i.e., (AClass>>#aMethodWithPragma) inspect)) and attach a sreen capture of the inspector window?

John

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John O'Keefe-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Jan -

Thanks, that helps. When you originally said 'change the superclass of a class that contains one or more Pragma definitions', I thought you meant edit the superclass in some way, but now I see that you meant switch to a different superclass.

John

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John O'Keefe-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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Jan -

The attached filein should fix the problem of changing the superclass of a class whose methods containing pragmas.

Let me know if it works for you.

Regards, John

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John O'Keefe-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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I've opened Case 48936 for the problem of 'Walkback when changing the superclass of a class containing Pragma definitions'.

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Jan van de Sandt

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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Hello John,

Yes, this filein solves the superclass issue.

Regards,

Jan.

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Jan -

The attached filein should fix the problem of changing the superclass of a class whose methods containing pragmas.

Let me know if it works for you.

Regards, John

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John O'Keefe

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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Sebastian -

I posted a filein for Jan to fix his "walkback when changing superclass of a class that defines a Pragma". This filein should fix both you application load problem and your missing Pragmas problem. Please let me know if it does.

John

Jan van de Sandt

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Hello John,

Your fix solved the "walkback when changing superclass ..." problem. But NOT the load problem. When I load an application with Pragma's, the pragma information is still not found. Only after changing the method(s) the Pragma information reappears.

Jan.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:10 PM, John O'Keefe <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sebastian -

I posted a filein for Jan to fix his "walkback when changing superclass of a
class that defines a Pragma". This filein *should* fix both you application
load problem and your missing Pragmas problem. Please let me know if it
does.

John

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John O'Keefe-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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Sebastian -

I'm having trouble reproducing you Pragma filein problem. I have created a class with one instance method:

foo

<bar>

^ self

I file the class out, delete the class from the image, and file the class back in. Inspecting the CompiledMethod shows that the proper Pragma is there.

Perhaps the test needs to be more complex? Can you post a testcase that demonstrates the failure?

Thanks, John

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SebastianHC

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Hi John,

I planned to check out your fix tomorrow and I'll try to find the Pharo
export file, I had trouble with.
I'll send it to you directly.

I'm sorry that my feedback takes that long this time.

Sebastian

Am 09.11.2011 18:05, schrieb John O'Keefe:

> Sebastian -
> I'm having trouble reproducing you Pragma filein problem. I have
> created a class with one instance method:
> foo
> <bar>
> ^ self
> I file the class out, delete the class from the image, and file the
> class back in. Inspecting the CompiledMethod shows that the proper
> Pragma is there.
> Perhaps the test needs to be more complex? Can you post a testcase
> that demonstrates the failure?
> Thanks, John
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SebastianHC

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

Hi John,

I just tested the filein you provided.

In my case it works, regardings the superclass "changing",too.

Thanks a lot!
Sebastian

John O'Keefe-3

Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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On Monday, October 24, 2011 6:47:49 AM UTC-4, Jan van de Sandt wrote:

When you load an application wich contains Pragma definitions into a new image the Pragma information is not found. The Pragma>>allNamed... methods all return an empty collection. After recompiling a method the Pragma information is available again.

I have sent a patch for this problem to Jan -- once he verifies that it works in his environment, I will post the patch here.

John

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Re: Serious problems with Pragma's

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This problem has the same root cause as:

When you load an application wich contains Pragma definitions into a new image the Pragma information is not found. The Pragma>>allNamed... methods all return an empty collection. After recompiling a method the Pragma information is available again.

I have just sent Jan a patch and I'm awaiting his validation of the patch before I post it here.

John

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