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Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

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Tudor Girba-2
I do not know what that is, but it does not sound important at all.

Doru


On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I forgot to say I am writing about porting of it into Roassal.
>
> Jura
>
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> 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]>
> Hi,
>
> Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm (and corresponding class MOMorphPainterVisitor)?
>
> Out of Mondrian it is used just once in DistributionMapExampleTest>>testSample where it can be easily changed by calling "viewRenderer open delete".
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Re: Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

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Re: Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

abergel
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Well... In a Mondrian test, calling getRenderedForm is helpful to test whether a visualization can actually be drawn or not.

In Roassal, you have this:

view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new.
...
view raw bitmap

Alexandre



On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I do not know what that is, but it does not sound important at all.
>
> Doru
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to say I am writing about porting of it into Roassal.
>>
>> Jura
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm (and corresponding class MOMorphPainterVisitor)?
>>
>> Out of Mondrian it is used just once in DistributionMapExampleTest>>testSample where it can be easily changed by calling "viewRenderer open delete".
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jura
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Re: Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

abergel
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It is actually important in the testing. Because testing well a model does not say whether a visualization can actually be drawn

Alexandre


On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Method's comment says "Simulate the graphical morph rendering". I do not found it important too.
>
> Jura
>
>
> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <[hidden email]>
> I do not know what that is, but it does not sound important at all.
>
> Doru
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I forgot to say I am writing about porting of it into Roassal.
> >
> > Jura
> >
> >
> > 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm (and corresponding class MOMorphPainterVisitor)?
> >
> > Out of Mondrian it is used just once in DistributionMapExampleTest>>testSample where it can be easily changed by calling "viewRenderer open delete".
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jura
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Re: Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

cbc
I have not used this method, but I do like to have access to the underlying form.  At times I want to post it in a website, or an email, or (eventually), a document like PDF.  Being able to just grab it makes sense, at least to me.

I have done with this EyeSee previously, and at some near point, will want to do similar activities with Roassal as well.

(Actually, at times I'd like to be able to draw it off-screen directly to a form and not display it at all as well - both use cases make sense to me.)

thanks,
Chris C.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
It is actually important in the testing. Because testing well a model does not say whether a visualization can actually be drawn

Alexandre


On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Method's comment says "Simulate the graphical morph rendering". I do not found it important too.
>
> Jura
>
>
> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <[hidden email]>
> I do not know what that is, but it does not sound important at all.
>
> Doru
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I forgot to say I am writing about porting of it into Roassal.
> >
> > Jura
> >
> >
> > 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm (and corresponding class MOMorphPainterVisitor)?
> >
> > Out of Mondrian it is used just once in DistributionMapExampleTest>>testSample where it can be easily changed by calling "viewRenderer open delete".
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jura
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
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Re: Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

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Re: Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

abergel
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Roassal offers an exporting facilities:


We will soon add a .pdf export based on Artefact.

We are also migrating EyeSee to Roassal. Exporting graphs will then be free.

Cheers,
Alexandre

On Apr 3, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have not used this method, but I do like to have access to the underlying form.  At times I want to post it in a website, or an email, or (eventually), a document like PDF.  Being able to just grab it makes sense, at least to me.

I have done with this EyeSee previously, and at some near point, will want to do similar activities with Roassal as well.

(Actually, at times I'd like to be able to draw it off-screen directly to a form and not display it at all as well - both use cases make sense to me.)

thanks,
Chris C.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
It is actually important in the testing. Because testing well a model does not say whether a visualization can actually be drawn

Alexandre


On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Method's comment says "Simulate the graphical morph rendering". I do not found it important too.
>
> Jura
>
>
> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <[hidden email]>
> I do not know what that is, but it does not sound important at all.
>
> Doru
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I forgot to say I am writing about porting of it into Roassal.
> >
> > Jura
> >
> >
> > 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm (and corresponding class MOMorphPainterVisitor)?
> >
> > Out of Mondrian it is used just once in DistributionMapExampleTest>>testSample where it can be easily changed by calling "viewRenderer open delete".
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jura
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Moose-dev mailing list
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> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
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Re: Should I port method MOViewRenderer>>getRenderedForm?

Ben Coman
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> We are also migrating EyeSee to Roassal. Exporting graphs will then be free.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>  
Nice. That will be very interesting to use Roassal's interactive
features with charts.  Like hover over a data point to get further
properties.

cheers -ben
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