Hello all,
I realize that I hold an unpopular position on this, but it *will* come back to haunt us: we need to have a way to warn the user if a second copy of Pharo is launched. Random meltdowns and lost work will result from the current behavior. Let me be more bold: lost work and random corrrupted images *are resulting* from the current behavior; they are either unrecognized, or simply ignored, but it is happening. Is there a way to fix it? On Windows, I recall creating an OS semaphore with a given name and if that exists, bail out before the session even gets going. We would need a cross-platform way to do that (or at least a Linux/Mac way to do it - Windows has a mechanism), and then a place to abort startup early enough to prevent problems. Any ideas? Bill _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On 02.09.2010 21:45, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello all, > > I realize that I hold an unpopular position on this, but it *will* come back to haunt us: we need to have a way to warn the user if a second copy of Pharo is launched. Random meltdowns and lost work will result from the current behavior. Let me be more bold: lost work and random corrrupted images *are resulting* from the current behavior; they are either unrecognized, or simply ignored, but it is happening. > > Is there a way to fix it? On Windows, I recall creating an OS semaphore with a given name and if that exists, bail out before the session even gets going. We would need a cross-platform way to do that (or at least a Linux/Mac way to do it - Windows has a mechanism), and then a place to abort startup early enough to prevent problems. Any ideas? > > Bill On Windows, it will give you an error that it was unable to open the changes file when you open the second image. Cheers, Henry PS. I think Steph agrees, given his experience with updates that mysteriously contain seemingly random bits of other methods' source code :) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Stef On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 02.09.2010 21:45, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I realize that I hold an unpopular position on this, but it *will* come back to haunt us: we need to have a way to warn the user if a second copy of Pharo is launched. Random meltdowns and lost work will result from the current behavior. Let me be more bold: lost work and random corrrupted images *are resulting* from the current behavior; they are either unrecognized, or simply ignored, but it is happening. >> >> Is there a way to fix it? On Windows, I recall creating an OS semaphore with a given name and if that exists, bail out before the session even gets going. We would need a cross-platform way to do that (or at least a Linux/Mac way to do it - Windows has a mechanism), and then a place to abort startup early enough to prevent problems. Any ideas? >> >> Bill > On Windows, it will give you an error that it was unable to open the changes file when you open the second image. > > Cheers, > Henry > > PS. I think Steph agrees, given his experience with updates that mysteriously contain seemingly random bits of other methods' source code :) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Stef,
I took that as agreement and created 2906. I don't know how to make it happen, but am certainly available for testing on Linux. Bill ________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:30 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Single instance executables ;) Stef On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 02.09.2010 21:45, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I realize that I hold an unpopular position on this, but it *will* come back to haunt us: we need to have a way to warn the user if a second copy of Pharo is launched. Random meltdowns and lost work will result from the current behavior. Let me be more bold: lost work and random corrrupted images *are resulting* from the current behavior; they are either unrecognized, or simply ignored, but it is happening. >> >> Is there a way to fix it? On Windows, I recall creating an OS semaphore with a given name and if that exists, bail out before the session even gets going. We would need a cross-platform way to do that (or at least a Linux/Mac way to do it - Windows has a mechanism), and then a place to abort startup early enough to prevent problems. Any ideas? >> >> Bill > On Windows, it will give you an error that it was unable to open the changes file when you open the second image. > > Cheers, > Henry > > PS. I think Steph agrees, given his experience with updates that mysteriously contain seemingly random bits of other methods' source code :) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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You could open some file for write at image startup. When its failed
you know that another image already started 2010/9/2, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]>: > Hello all, > > I realize that I hold an unpopular position on this, but it *will* come back > to haunt us: we need to have a way to warn the user if a second copy of > Pharo is launched. Random meltdowns and lost work will result from the > current behavior. Let me be more bold: lost work and random corrrupted > images *are resulting* from the current behavior; they are either > unrecognized, or simply ignored, but it is happening. > > Is there a way to fix it? On Windows, I recall creating an OS semaphore > with a given name and if that exists, bail out before the session even gets > going. We would need a cross-platform way to do that (or at least a > Linux/Mac way to do it - Windows has a mechanism), and then a place to abort > startup early enough to prevent problems. Any ideas? > > Bill > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On 04/09/2010 08:25, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
> You could open some file for write at image startup. When its failed > you know that another image already started > That only works on Windows. Unix will allow you to open a file for writing multiple times simultaneously. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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You mean like the change log? :) If that will work, then we should look close to home and take the hint.
________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Denis Kudriashov [[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 3:25 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Single instance executables You could open some file for write at image startup. When its failed you know that another image already started 2010/9/2, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]>: > Hello all, > > I realize that I hold an unpopular position on this, but it *will* come back > to haunt us: we need to have a way to warn the user if a second copy of > Pharo is launched. Random meltdowns and lost work will result from the > current behavior. Let me be more bold: lost work and random corrrupted > images *are resulting* from the current behavior; they are either > unrecognized, or simply ignored, but it is happening. > > Is there a way to fix it? On Windows, I recall creating an OS semaphore > with a given name and if that exists, bail out before the session even gets > going. We would need a cross-platform way to do that (or at least a > Linux/Mac way to do it - Windows has a mechanism), and then a place to abort > startup early enough to prevent problems. Any ideas? > > Bill > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Perhaps Denis meant the file would be deleted when the image is
exited. So only the presence of the file would need to be checked for upon startup.. On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Douglas Brebner <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 04/09/2010 08:25, Denis Kudriashov wrote: >> >> You could open some file for write at image startup. When its failed >> you know that another image already started >> > > That only works on Windows. Unix will allow you to open a file for writing > multiple times simultaneously. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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