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Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

jannik laval
Hi all,

I would like to use the new version of pharo but I have some bugs:

Pharo-dev:
- When I open for the first time the latest version of pharo-dev, it  
is impossible to use the copy-paste command

Pharo and pharo-dev:
- it is impossible to open a Monticello browser because of an error  
"invalid utf8 input detected"
- in the workspace of pharo-dev, there is the same error when I would  
like to run this line in a workspace:
        Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'; project:  
'Moose'; install: 'MooseLoader'.

I use the last VM (4beta1).

Thanks for your help.


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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Stéphane Ducasse
Yes I have the same problem I cannot do copy and paste anymore on mac  
with latest vm
and latest image.

Stef

On Apr 20, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Laval Jannik wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to use the new version of pharo but I have some bugs:
>
> Pharo-dev:
> - When I open for the first time the latest version of pharo-dev, it
> is impossible to use the copy-paste command
>
> Pharo and pharo-dev:
> - it is impossible to open a Monticello browser because of an error
> "invalid utf8 input detected"
> - in the workspace of pharo-dev, there is the same error when I would
> like to run this line in a workspace:
> Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'; project:
> 'Moose'; install: 'MooseLoader'.
>
> I use the last VM (4beta1).
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
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> Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA)
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> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr
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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Damien Cassou
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
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> Yes I have the same problem I cannot do copy and paste anymore on mac

I does not work for me if I use CTRL, but it works if I use ALT.

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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Nicolas Cellier
Same on Unix

2009/4/20 Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:

> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Yes I have the same problem I cannot do copy and paste anymore on mac
>
> I does not work for me if I use CTRL, but it works if I use ALT.
>
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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Stéphane Ducasse
In reply to this post by jannik laval
this is strange because I only get that with 10284 but not 10282/2

Stef

On Apr 20, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Laval Jannik wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to use the new version of pharo but I have some bugs:
>
> Pharo-dev:
> - When I open for the first time the latest version of pharo-dev, it
> is impossible to use the copy-paste command
>
> Pharo and pharo-dev:
> - it is impossible to open a Monticello browser because of an error
> "invalid utf8 input detected"
> - in the workspace of pharo-dev, there is the same error when I would
> like to run this line in a workspace:
> Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'; project:
> 'Moose'; install: 'MooseLoader'.
>
> I use the last VM (4beta1).
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
> ---
> Jannik Laval
> PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA
> Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA)
> http://www.jannik-laval.eu
> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr
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>
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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Michael Rueger-6
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Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Yes I have the same problem I cannot do copy and paste anymore on mac  
> with latest vm
> and latest image.

Hmm, what is the magic with the Mac edit menu again? Invoking cut etc
from the menu via mouse doesn't work either. I'm lost though how the
edit menu is connected to the commands.

Michael

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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Michael Rueger-6
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Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> Same on Unix

Now I'm confused.
On the Mac it doesn't work at all, right?

And on Unix it works for alt but not ctrl?
Isn't that simply a setting in the swap control-alt key preference?

Speaking of which, this whole ctrl/alt swap/duplicate nonsense really
needs to go. Which of course would mean a lot of changes in short cuts.

Michael

>
> 2009/4/20 Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Yes I have the same problem I cannot do copy and paste anymore on mac
>> I does not work for me if I use CTRL, but it works if I use ALT.
>>
>> --
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>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Stéphane Ducasse

On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:

> Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>> Same on Unix
>
> Now I'm confused.
> On the Mac it doesn't work at all, right?

Yes it does not work at all.
         I cannot copy and paster from within pharo but also from another app  
to pharo
        I cannot copy in phaor and paste in another app.

> And on Unix it works for alt but not ctrl?
> Isn't that simply a setting in the swap control-alt key preference?
>
> Speaking of which, this whole ctrl/alt swap/duplicate nonsense really
> needs to go. Which of course would mean a lot of changes in short  
> cuts.

Youpi! but for 1.1 :)

Stef


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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Alexandre Bergel
Strange. Cut&Paste works perfectly for me. I use Pharo0.1Core-10281cl  
and Squeak 4.0.1beta1U

Alexandre

On 20 Apr 2009, at 17:26, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

>
> On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:
>
>> Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>>> Same on Unix
>>
>> Now I'm confused.
>> On the Mac it doesn't work at all, right?
>
> Yes it does not work at all.
> I cannot copy and paster from within pharo but also from another app
> to pharo
> I cannot copy in phaor and paste in another app.
>
>> And on Unix it works for alt but not ctrl?
>> Isn't that simply a setting in the swap control-alt key preference?
>>
>> Speaking of which, this whole ctrl/alt swap/duplicate nonsense really
>> needs to go. Which of course would mean a lot of changes in short
>> cuts.
>
> Youpi! but for 1.1 :)
>
> Stef
>
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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Michael Rueger-6
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Strange. Cut&Paste works perfectly for me. I use Pharo0.1Core-10281cl
> and Squeak 4.0.1beta1U

it's broken by the new event sensor stuff in 284

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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

jannik laval
Ok,

I have always a bug with utf8:
- it is impossible to open a Monticello browser because of an error "invalid utf8 input detected"
- in the workspace of pharo-dev, there is the same error when I would like to run this line in a workspace:
Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'; project: 'Moose'; install: 'MooseLoader'.

an idea ?

Jannik

On 20 avr. 09, at 18:22, Michael Rueger wrote:

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Strange. Cut&Paste works perfectly for me. I use Pharo0.1Core-10281cl
and Squeak 4.0.1beta1U

it's broken by the new event sensor stuff in 284

Michael

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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

Alexandre Bergel
It has to come from the packages loaded by Pharo-dev. I have no  
problem with Pharo-Core
I experienced problem with eCompletion, but this is probably unrelated  
to your situation.

Alexandre


On 21 Apr 2009, at 08:13, Laval Jannik wrote:

> Ok,
>
> I have always a bug with utf8:
> - it is impossible to open a Monticello browser because of an error  
> "invalid utf8 input detected"
> - in the workspace of pharo-dev, there is the same error when I  
> would like to run this line in a workspace:
> Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'; project:  
> 'Moose'; install: 'MooseLoader'.
>
> an idea ?
>
> Jannik
>
> On 20 avr. 09, at 18:22, Michael Rueger wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>> > wrote:
>>> Strange. Cut&Paste works perfectly for me. I use  
>>> Pharo0.1Core-10281cl
>>> and Squeak 4.0.1beta1U
>>
>> it's broken by the new event sensor stuff in 284
>>
>> Michael
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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

jannik laval
Ok, I have found the problem:

When I run the image for the first time, a folder "package-cache" is created.
When the image is in a folder on my desktop ("/Users/jannik/Desktop/Pharo"), it does not works.
If I put this folder in "/Applications/Pharo", it works.

Maybe, the bug come from the VM.

Jannik


On 21 avr. 09, at 09:04, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

It has to come from the packages loaded by Pharo-dev. I have no  
problem with Pharo-Core
I experienced problem with eCompletion, but this is probably unrelated  
to your situation.

Alexandre


On 21 Apr 2009, at 08:13, Laval Jannik wrote:

Ok,

I have always a bug with utf8:
- it is impossible to open a Monticello browser because of an error  
"invalid utf8 input detected"
- in the workspace of pharo-dev, there is the same error when I  
would like to run this line in a workspace:
Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'; project:  
'Moose'; install: 'MooseLoader'.

an idea ?

Jannik

On 20 avr. 09, at 18:22, Michael Rueger wrote:

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
wrote:
Strange. Cut&Paste works perfectly for me. I use  
Pharo0.1Core-10281cl
and Squeak 4.0.1beta1U

it's broken by the new event sensor stuff in 284

Michael

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Re: Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

johnmci
This is because the pharo system now is much more utf-8 filename aware.
Unfortunately the  the 4.0.1b1U VM is still setup for macintosh  
(macroman) file name translation
which causes Pharo to die, when a  directory search encounters oh I'd  
don't know "folder çà 2" perhaps?

The fix is to change your 4.0.1x squeak vm or pharo one-click app  
setting on the macintosh to have the VM give back UTF-8 characters.
To do this control click to show contents and open the *.app then dig  
inside the Contents folder and alter the Info.plist
change the SqueakEncodingType to UTF-8

At this late hour I'm not sure how to distribute such a change since  
if you run the VM in UTF-8 mode then it mess up any
non-ascii 128-255) characters in the Squeak  3.8/3.9/3.10/3.11 File  
Browser.

Then again perhaps we say oh if you use a pending? 4.1.0 VM you MUST  
ensure your image is UTF8 aware?

BTW the macintosh carbon VM is very UTF8 aware since we did no-end of  
testing on file names in Sophie. However we preserved
all file name paths as URI references, versus unix path names, and  
flip the URI into the proper path with encoding by asking it for it's
file path name when it was needed as a file link.

On 21-Apr-09, at 12:48 AM, Laval Jannik wrote:

> Ok, I have found the problem:
>
> When I run the image for the first time, a folder "package-cache" is  
> created.
> When the image is in a folder on my desktop ("/Users/jannik/Desktop/
> Pharo"), it does not works.
> If I put this folder in "/Applications/Pharo", it works.
>
> Maybe, the bug come from the VM.
>
> Jannik

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