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stepharo
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in
Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture.
In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof.
Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the
conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4
days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web
stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking
for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and
may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now
that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a
pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students
watched it.

Stef

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ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou
Hello Stephane  and All,

I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)

I will do my best to be Pharo master.

i like Pharo!

2015-09-26 11:31 GMT+00:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture. In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof. Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4 days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students watched it.

Stef




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Stephan Eggermont-3
On 26-09-15 16:05, ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou wrote:
> I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)
>
> I will do my best to be Pharo master.
>
> i like Pharo!

Hi John, welcome to Pharo. Don't hesitate to tell us about your journey
and ask questions here. Truly mastering a system as complex as Pharo
takes a long time. Make sure you have lots of fun on the way!

Stephan



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stepharo
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Hi john

I will start to finish the magritte tutorial for Magritte 3.0.
I will send it to you and the pharo togo mailing-list.
We should really get a cool app for TogoApp.

What idea do you have in mind?
With remi we were thinking about a
    - a mini meetic kind of application
    - a kind of application that people can fill up with their mobile and register restaurant (the minister would love this one :)

Stef


Le 26/9/15 16:05, ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou a écrit :
Hello Stephane  and All,

I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)

I will do my best to be Pharo master.

i like Pharo!

2015-09-26 11:31 GMT+00:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture. In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof. Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4 days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students watched it.

Stef




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Mariano Martinez Peck


On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi john

I will start to finish the magritte tutorial for Magritte 3.0.
I will send it to you and the pharo togo mailing-list.
We should really get a cool app for TogoApp.

What idea do you have in mind?

An app where you can tell what do you have in the fridge/freezer and possibly some other none-fridge materials like pasta, sugar, salt, flour, etc...Then you can easily tell it when something has finished or when there is something new. 
And then...you can ask for recipes you can make with the current things you have. Of course, you could have a general public database of recipes or you could add your own...
You can add more things, like "best consume before XXX date" and so you can have alerts for things etc. You could customize alerts (to phones, emails, etc)

Really...I hate each time we have to think about what to cook. 

Of course, this app is not new and I am sure there are plenty around. But could be fun. 

 
With remi we were thinking about a
    - a mini meetic kind of application
    - a kind of application that people can fill up with their mobile and register restaurant (the minister would love this one :)

Stef


Le 26/9/15 16:05, ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou a écrit :
Hello Stephane  and All,

I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)

I will do my best to be Pharo master.

i like Pharo!

2015-09-26 11:31 GMT+00:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture. In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof. Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4 days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students watched it.

Stef




--
John ATTIOGBE.





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stepharo
:)


What idea do you have in mind?

An app where you can tell what do you have in the fridge/freezer and possibly some other none-fridge materials like pasta, sugar, salt, flour, etc...Then you can easily tell it when something has finished or when there is something new. 
And then...you can ask for recipes you can make with the current things you have. Of course, you could have a general public database of recipes or you could add your own...
You can add more things, like "best consume before XXX date" and so you can have alerts for things etc. You could customize alerts (to phones, emails, etc)

Really...I hate each time we have to think about what to cook. 

Of course, this app is not new and I am sure there are plenty around. But could be fun. 

 
Mariano you make me laugh :)

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Offray
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Hi Stephan, and welcome John,

In the same line of teaching with Pharo, the last week we had our second edition of the data week, an intensive workshop on data visualization using pharo. This was a pretty small group, of max 6 people, but is nice to see how pharo can serve well different communities and approaches of learning. We updated our Grafoscopio tutorial and now includes the adaptation of prof stef and now we're creating our first lessons on data scrapping. Here is a screenshot, and at [1] you can get the last version, to open it as a grafoscopio interactive document.



[1] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/finfo?name=Docs/Es/Tutoriales/tutorial.ston

Cheers,

Offray

On 26/09/15 09:05, ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou wrote:
Hello Stephane  and All,

I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)

I will do my best to be Pharo master.

i like Pharo!

2015-09-26 11:31 GMT+00:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture. In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof. Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4 days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students watched it.

Stef




--
John ATTIOGBE.


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Tudor Girba-2
Great!

I love this type of work. And we should build tools that empower you even more :).

Doru

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stephan, and welcome John,

In the same line of teaching with Pharo, the last week we had our second edition of the data week, an intensive workshop on data visualization using pharo. This was a pretty small group, of max 6 people, but is nice to see how pharo can serve well different communities and approaches of learning. We updated our Grafoscopio tutorial and now includes the adaptation of prof stef and now we're creating our first lessons on data scrapping. Here is a screenshot, and at [1] you can get the last version, to open it as a grafoscopio interactive document.



[1] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/finfo?name=Docs/Es/Tutoriales/tutorial.ston

Cheers,

Offray


On 26/09/15 09:05, ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou wrote:
Hello Stephane  and All,

I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)

I will do my best to be Pharo master.

i like Pharo!

2015-09-26 11:31 GMT+00:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture. In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof. Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4 days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students watched it.

Stef




--
John ATTIOGBE.





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"Every thing has its own flow"
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SergeStinckwich
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Looks interesting !

Did you have a look to Jupyter notebook ?

This could be nice if we could have a Pharo support for this (already supported by other
languages like R, Python, Scala, etc ...).


Best,


On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stephan, and welcome John,

In the same line of teaching with Pharo, the last week we had our second edition of the data week, an intensive workshop on data visualization using pharo. This was a pretty small group, of max 6 people, but is nice to see how pharo can serve well different communities and approaches of learning. We updated our Grafoscopio tutorial and now includes the adaptation of prof stef and now we're creating our first lessons on data scrapping. Here is a screenshot, and at [1] you can get the last version, to open it as a grafoscopio interactive document.



[1] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/finfo?name=Docs/Es/Tutoriales/tutorial.ston

Cheers,

Offray


On 26/09/15 09:05, ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou wrote:
Hello Stephane  and All,

I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)

I will do my best to be Pharo master.

i like Pharo!

2015-09-26 11:31 GMT+00:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture. In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof. Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4 days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students watched it.

Stef




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Offray
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Thanks Doru, Pharo environment, specially GT Tools and Roassal have been really empowering. Next step is to explore GT-Spec integration for a more familiar and versatile interface. I'll keep all you posted.

Cheers,

Offray

On 29/09/15 06:28, Tudor Girba wrote:
Great!

I love this type of work. And we should build tools that empower you even more :).

Doru

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stephan, and welcome John,

In the same line of teaching with Pharo, the last week we had our second edition of the data week, an intensive workshop on data visualization using pharo. This was a pretty small group, of max 6 people, but is nice to see how pharo can serve well different communities and approaches of learning. We updated our Grafoscopio tutorial and now includes the adaptation of prof stef and now we're creating our first lessons on data scrapping. Here is a screenshot, and at [1] you can get the last version, to open it as a grafoscopio interactive document.



[1] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/finfo?name=Docs/Es/Tutoriales/tutorial.ston

Cheers,

Offray


On 26/09/15 09:05, ATTIOGBE Damessi Douwonou wrote:
Hello Stephane  and All,

I'm John student  from TOGO! I'm verry happy to meet PHARO on my road :)

I will do my best to be Pharo master.

i like Pharo!

2015-09-26 11:31 GMT+00:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys

I want to let you know that there will be a new pharo lecture in Yaoundé. I presented Pharo during a seminar and the
previous minister of education was there and asked us to do a lecture. In June we did it with Damien C. by skype.
And now there is an official lecture at Yaoundé given by Prof. Metalagia. This is an excellent news. I will give some lectures in
december there.

In Togo my first visit was quite successful: 120 participants to the conferences I gave (it was still vacation time there).
There were 60 students following lectures from 8h to 17h during 4 days... Yes I'm exhausted ;)
A new Pharo lecture will start in north Togo. I will go back in December.

One of the idea is to help students to get good in Pharo and pharo web stack and build web apps and other.
I hope that we can have within 2/3 year
There is a competition AppTogo. People are learning C# and others.
I hope that some students will compete with Pharo so I will be looking for potential mentors to help them.
Giving them advices, pointing them to the right solution/framework and may be a bit of pair rogramming if skype
works.

I distributed the Pharo Starter Kit (we will announce it officially now that I have 10 gb space on my server)
People love the Youtube videos folder I'm collecting. Yes internet is a pain there.
Chloupis I put your great youtube tutorial! Thanks for it. some students watched it.

Stef




--
John ATTIOGBE.





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"Every thing has its own flow"

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Offray
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Hi Serge,


On 29/09/15 06:43, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
> Looks interesting !
>

Thanks :).

> Did you have a look to Jupyter notebook ?
> https://jupyter.org/
>

Yep, I know it. In fact I come from IPython to Pharo because I need a
more moldable and flexible environment for data narratives and
visualization and adapting IPython/Jupyter has a lot of cognitive burden
when is not development but writing/research your primary goal. I have
wrote about it here[1][2]:

[1]
http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-initial-progress.html
[2]
http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/on-deepness-and-complexity-of-ipython-documents.html

Thinking now about it, it occurs to me that grafoscopio is to Jupyter
kind of what SmalltalkHub is to GitHub. It tries to solve the same
problem of Jupyter (interactive documentation) but with a different
approach, from a "pharo/smalltalk" perspective. For me the big advantage
are tree like interactive documents (as pointed in [2]), a feature that
Jupyter notebooks are still lacking and that starts to weight when you
start to write a long interactive document on Jupyter with only cells.
You can split the document on several files, but you lost panoramic view
(you see only the current file) or have a single long one file, but then
your are lost in the details (see an example of an abandoned notebook
exploration at [3])

[3] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/piamed/doc/tip/Afiche/narrativa.png

> This could be nice if we could have a Pharo support for this (already
> supported by other
> languages like R, Python, Scala, etc ...).
>
>
> Best,
>

Or have it the other way around: R, Python, Scala supported in Pharo,
without the constrains of a web interface and the notebook "cells only"
format. Maybe some kind of support for the ZeroMQ jupyter kernel could
be the start of this kind of multi-language support *inside* Pharo
documents.

Cheers,

Offray

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philippeback
Or the other way around, have a Pharo Kernel.

Phil

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Serge,


On 29/09/15 06:43, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
Looks interesting !


Thanks :).

Did you have a look to Jupyter notebook ?
https://jupyter.org/


Yep, I know it. In fact I come from IPython to Pharo because I need a more moldable and flexible environment for data narratives and visualization and adapting IPython/Jupyter has a lot of cognitive burden when is not development but writing/research your primary goal. I have wrote about it here[1][2]:

[1] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-initial-progress.html
[2] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/on-deepness-and-complexity-of-ipython-documents.html

Thinking now about it, it occurs to me that grafoscopio is to Jupyter kind of what SmalltalkHub is to GitHub. It tries to solve the same problem of Jupyter (interactive documentation) but with a different approach, from a "pharo/smalltalk" perspective. For me the big advantage are tree like interactive documents (as pointed in [2]), a feature that Jupyter notebooks are still lacking and that starts to weight when you start to write a long interactive document on Jupyter with only cells. You can split the document on several files, but you lost panoramic view (you see only the current file) or have a single long one file, but then your are lost in the details (see an example of an abandoned notebook exploration at [3])

[3] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/piamed/doc/tip/Afiche/narrativa.png

This could be nice if we could have a Pharo support for this (already supported by other
languages like R, Python, Scala, etc ...).


Best,


Or have it the other way around: R, Python, Scala supported in Pharo, without the constrains of a web interface and the notebook "cells only" format. Maybe some kind of support for the ZeroMQ jupyter kernel could be the start of this kind of multi-language support *inside* Pharo documents.

Cheers,

Offray



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philippeback
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Offray,

I wanted to try Grafoscopio but couldn't load it in Pharo4 (windows)

I used your stfx workspace as mentioned on STH.

"Updates the system prerequisites with new versions of itself take from the source code repository"

"Visualization library (which also makes main menu loadable)"
Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2';
configurationOf: 'Roassal2';
loadStable.

"Open/save files on STON format"
Gofer new 
smalltalkhubUser: 'SvenVanCaekenberghe' project: 'STON';
configurationOf: 'Ston';
loadBleedingEdge.

"Moose and Roassal integration"
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
package: 'Glamour-Tools';
package: 'Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations';
load.
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
package: 'GT-InspectorExtensions-CoreRoassal';
load.

"Integration with external tools"
Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'Offray' project: 'Grafoscopio';
    package: 'Grafoscopio-ExternalTools';
    load.

"HTML scrapping"
Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'Soup';
    configurationOf: 'Soup';
    loadStable.

"Data visualization"
Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'Offray' project: 'Dataviz';
    package: 'Dataviz';
    load.

Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'Offray' project: 'Grafoscopio';
    package: 'Grafoscopio';
    load.


Just that I put #loadStable instead of #loadDevelopment for Roassal.

So, how is one opening the tool? 

I tried:

GrafoscopioGUI new open.

but got EclipseUIThemeIcons MNU: catalogIcon

I put another icon just to get past and as I found no World menu entry, I did:

GrafoscopioGUI new openWithSpec.

Clicking on the toobar gives me Por implementar...

Any resource for me to look at?

A "Notebook" in Pharo, I want to try :-)

Phil




On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Serge,


On 29/09/15 06:43, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
Looks interesting !


Thanks :).

Did you have a look to Jupyter notebook ?
https://jupyter.org/


Yep, I know it. In fact I come from IPython to Pharo because I need a more moldable and flexible environment for data narratives and visualization and adapting IPython/Jupyter has a lot of cognitive burden when is not development but writing/research your primary goal. I have wrote about it here[1][2]:

[1] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-initial-progress.html
[2] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/on-deepness-and-complexity-of-ipython-documents.html

Thinking now about it, it occurs to me that grafoscopio is to Jupyter kind of what SmalltalkHub is to GitHub. It tries to solve the same problem of Jupyter (interactive documentation) but with a different approach, from a "pharo/smalltalk" perspective. For me the big advantage are tree like interactive documents (as pointed in [2]), a feature that Jupyter notebooks are still lacking and that starts to weight when you start to write a long interactive document on Jupyter with only cells. You can split the document on several files, but you lost panoramic view (you see only the current file) or have a single long one file, but then your are lost in the details (see an example of an abandoned notebook exploration at [3])

[3] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/piamed/doc/tip/Afiche/narrativa.png

This could be nice if we could have a Pharo support for this (already supported by other
languages like R, Python, Scala, etc ...).


Best,


Or have it the other way around: R, Python, Scala supported in Pharo, without the constrains of a web interface and the notebook "cells only" format. Maybe some kind of support for the ZeroMQ jupyter kernel could be the start of this kind of multi-language support *inside* Pharo documents.

Cheers,

Offray



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Offray
Phil,

Thanks for your interest. Please try this updated installation script [1]:

http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/install.st

After installing it run from a playground:

    GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar

You will have a Spanish docking bar with some options to start your exploration (sorry no time yet for translations).

Still lots of rookie code everywhere, so any advice is welcomed.

I have updated the documentation on StHub.

Cheers,

Offray

On 29/09/15 09:37, [hidden email] wrote:
Offray,

I wanted to try Grafoscopio but couldn't load it in Pharo4 (windows)

I used your stfx workspace as mentioned on STH.

"Updates the system prerequisites with new versions of itself take from the source code repository"

"Visualization library (which also makes main menu loadable)"
Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2';
configurationOf: 'Roassal2';
loadStable.

"Open/save files on STON format"
Gofer new 
smalltalkhubUser: 'SvenVanCaekenberghe' project: 'STON';
configurationOf: 'Ston';
loadBleedingEdge.

"Moose and Roassal integration"
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour';
package: 'Glamour-Tools';
package: 'Glamour-Roassal2-Presentations';
load.
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
package: 'GT-InspectorExtensions-CoreRoassal';
load.

"Integration with external tools"
Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'Offray' project: 'Grafoscopio';
    package: 'Grafoscopio-ExternalTools';
    load.

"HTML scrapping"
Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'Soup';
    configurationOf: 'Soup';
    loadStable.

"Data visualization"
Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'Offray' project: 'Dataviz';
    package: 'Dataviz';
    load.

Gofer new 
    smalltalkhubUser: 'Offray' project: 'Grafoscopio';
    package: 'Grafoscopio';
    load.


Just that I put #loadStable instead of #loadDevelopment for Roassal.

So, how is one opening the tool? 

I tried:

GrafoscopioGUI new open.

but got EclipseUIThemeIcons MNU: catalogIcon

I put another icon just to get past and as I found no World menu entry, I did:

GrafoscopioGUI new openWithSpec.

Clicking on the toobar gives me Por implementar...

Any resource for me to look at?

A "Notebook" in Pharo, I want to try :-)

Phil




On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Serge,


On 29/09/15 06:43, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
Looks interesting !


Thanks :).

Did you have a look to Jupyter notebook ?
https://jupyter.org/


Yep, I know it. In fact I come from IPython to Pharo because I need a more moldable and flexible environment for data narratives and visualization and adapting IPython/Jupyter has a lot of cognitive burden when is not development but writing/research your primary goal. I have wrote about it here[1][2]:

[1] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-initial-progress.html
[2] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/on-deepness-and-complexity-of-ipython-documents.html

Thinking now about it, it occurs to me that grafoscopio is to Jupyter kind of what SmalltalkHub is to GitHub. It tries to solve the same problem of Jupyter (interactive documentation) but with a different approach, from a "pharo/smalltalk" perspective. For me the big advantage are tree like interactive documents (as pointed in [2]), a feature that Jupyter notebooks are still lacking and that starts to weight when you start to write a long interactive document on Jupyter with only cells. You can split the document on several files, but you lost panoramic view (you see only the current file) or have a single long one file, but then your are lost in the details (see an example of an abandoned notebook exploration at [3])

[3] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/piamed/doc/tip/Afiche/narrativa.png

This could be nice if we could have a Pharo support for this (already supported by other
languages like R, Python, Scala, etc ...).


Best,


Or have it the other way around: R, Python, Scala supported in Pharo, without the constrains of a web interface and the notebook "cells only" format. Maybe some kind of support for the ZeroMQ jupyter kernel could be the start of this kind of multi-language support *inside* Pharo documents.

Cheers,

Offray




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Stephan Eggermont-3
On 29-09-15 16:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
> Thanks for your interest. Please try this updated installation script [1]:

Is there a specific reason this is not a Metacello configuration?

Stephan




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Offray
Hi,

On 29/09/15 10:08, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
> On 29-09-15 16:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>> Thanks for your interest. Please try this updated installation script
>> [1]:
>
> Is there a specific reason this is not a Metacello configuration?
>

Yep. I don't know how to do them ;-), a lot of stuff I need to learn to
get a minimal interface working (now is Spec and GT, but in my list
testing has high priority) and few time to hack on Pharo, so a script
seemed like the easier approach to get the installation working.

Now I have more time, so after finishing Spec-Glamour interface, I will
try to learn more about Metacello and try a better way to install
grafoscopio on pharo 4.

Cheers,

Offray



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> On Sep 29, 2015, at 12:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 29/09/15 10:08, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
>> On 29-09-15 16:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>>> Thanks for your interest. Please try this updated installation script [1]:
>>
>> Is there a specific reason this is not a Metacello configuration?
>>
>
> Yep. I don't know how to do them ;-), a lot of stuff I need to learn to get a minimal interface working (now is Spec and GT, but in my list testing has high priority) and few time to hack on Pharo, so a script seemed like the easier approach to get the installation working.
>
> Now I have more time, so after finishing Spec-Glamour interface, I will try to learn more about Metacello and try a better way to install grafoscopio on pharo 4.

Try using Versionner (World->Tools->Versionner). I do not understand Metacello at all yet I was able to create a configuration in less than 30 minutes. There are also some tutorials on Youtube, but I don’t have a link here, sorry.


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stepharo
+1

Stef


Le 29/9/15 18:02, Johan Fabry a écrit :

>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 12:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 29/09/15 10:08, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
>>> On 29-09-15 16:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>>>> Thanks for your interest. Please try this updated installation script [1]:
>>> Is there a specific reason this is not a Metacello configuration?
>>>
>> Yep. I don't know how to do them ;-), a lot of stuff I need to learn to get a minimal interface working (now is Spec and GT, but in my list testing has high priority) and few time to hack on Pharo, so a script seemed like the easier approach to get the installation working.
>>
>> Now I have more time, so after finishing Spec-Glamour interface, I will try to learn more about Metacello and try a better way to install grafoscopio on pharo 4.
> Try using Versionner (World->Tools->Versionner). I do not understand Metacello at all yet I was able to create a configuration in less than 30 minutes. There are also some tutorials on Youtube, but I don’t have a link here, sorry.
>
>
> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <---
>
> Johan Fabry   -   http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
> PLEIAD and RyCh labs  -  Computer Science Department (DCC)  -  University of Chile
>
>
>


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Esteban A. Maringolo
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2015-09-29 8:43 GMT-03:00 Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>:
Did you have a look to Jupyter notebook ?

This could be nice if we could have a Pharo support for this (already supported by other
languages like R, Python, Scala, etc ...).


Slightly OT:
Google just launched its Datalab product, which is based on Jupyter: https://cloud.google.com/datalab/
 



Esteban A. Maringolo

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Thanks Esteban, Nice to know.

Cheers,

Offray

On 13/10/15 14:24, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote:

2015-09-29 8:43 GMT-03:00 Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>:
Did you have a look to Jupyter notebook ?

This could be nice if we could have a Pharo support for this (already supported by other
languages like R, Python, Scala, etc ...).


Slightly OT:
Google just launched its Datalab product, which is based on Jupyter: https://cloud.google.com/datalab/
 



Esteban A. Maringolo