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Some things in Beta4

Artur Zaroda
Hello,

Unfortunately I had no opportunity to install the latest patches, so what I
report below may have already been fixed. From what I understand, it is
the case with 'Default view' problems of DatePresenter which Ian reported
and which I did eXPerience as well.

Other thing that may be related - when opening ClassHierarchyDiagram
the following:

Resource library msmask32.ocx could not be opened ('msmask32.ocx' (16r2: The system cannot find the file specified.))
Resource library mscomct2.ocx could not be opened ('mscomct2.ocx' (16r2: The system cannot find the file specified.))

is being sent to Transcript. It doesn't last there very long - if
Transcript is closed when this happens, after opening it, messages are
gone (is that supposed to happen at all ?).

Now the strange problem I'm seeing (once again - apologies if that
doesn't happen with the latest patches). Open SystemBrowser and in
an empty "Packages" pane do the right-click. It will walkback with 'Index
1 is out of bounds'. Now the weird part: after walkback, mouse pointer
hides behind Dolphin windows. It does function properly, but does not
display on top of Dolphin. Also, after doing this I'm not able to switch
to another (non-Dolphin) window by clicking on taskbar.

And some minor observations:

After installing but before unlocking the image, an attempt
to start Dolphin by selecting "Dolphin Smalltalk Professional"
icon from start menu will not work, because Professional.img
does not exist. I may be misremembering things, but I believe
that in 4.0 this used to run "Fresh Install". It would make
even more sense to have a stub Professional.img image displaying
"Unlock me first" message. I know that this is "RTFM" kind of
problem, but things like this (putting in Start menu an icon,
which doesn't start anything) can scare off newbies.
An alternative solution would be to give an option to start
unlocking image directly from installer.

When I'm closing Dolphin and the "Please confirm..." dialog
about saving image is being displayed, mouse pointer for other
Dolphin windows changes to "Cursor wait". Somehow, that doesn't
look right - it is a sign, that _I_ have to wait, not that
_Dolphin_ is waiting for me.

On SystemBrowser's toolbar the "Up One Level", "Back" and
"Forward" icons are enabled even when not applicable. This could
be deliberate, as they looked ugly in disabled state in 4.0.

In SystemBrowser select CampSmalltalk (or pretty much any other) folder
and, from context menu, BrowseFolder. It will walkback if packages were
not exported to disk.

Artur Zaroda
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Re: Some things in Beta4

Blair McGlashan
"Artur Zaroda" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> Unfortunately I had no opportunity to install the latest patches, so what
I
> report below may have already been fixed. From what I understand, it is
> the case with 'Default view' problems of DatePresenter which Ian reported
> and which I did eXPerience as well.
>
> Other thing that may be related - when opening ClassHierarchyDiagram
> the following:
>
> Resource library msmask32.ocx could not be opened ('msmask32.ocx' (16r2:
The system cannot find the file specified.))
> Resource library mscomct2.ocx could not be opened ('mscomct2.ocx' (16r2:
The system cannot find the file specified.))

These are because some OCX's are not installed on your system, and so the
icons for the MaskedEdit and MonthView classes cannot be loaded (and
obviously they won't work as view's either). The reports can be ignored.

>
> is being sent to Transcript. It doesn't last there very long - if
> Transcript is closed when this happens, after opening it, messages are
> gone (is that supposed to happen at all ?).

No, it is not supposed to happen, but it doesn't for me. You might, however,
be experiencing the problem of writes to an invisible transcript not
displaying until the Window is resized (horizontally seems to kick it into
action best).  This is a longstanding issue due to some sort of problem with
the RichEdit control, which we've not been able to workaround to date
(#149).

>
> Now the strange problem I'm seeing (once again - apologies if that
> doesn't happen with the latest patches). Open SystemBrowser and in
> an empty "Packages" pane do the right-click. It will walkback with 'Index
> 1 is out of bounds'. Now the weird part: after walkback, mouse pointer
> hides behind Dolphin windows. It does function properly, but does not
> display on top of Dolphin. Also, after doing this I'm not able to switch
> to another (non-Dolphin) window by clicking on taskbar.

Its a bug in PackageBrowserShell>>queryCommand: which has been fixed for the
release, but thanks.

>
> And some minor observations:
>
> After installing but before unlocking the image, an attempt
> to start Dolphin by selecting "Dolphin Smalltalk Professional"
> icon from start menu will not work, because Professional.img
> does not exist. I may be misremembering things, but I believe
> that in 4.0 this used to run "Fresh Install". It would make
> even more sense to have a stub Professional.img image displaying
> "Unlock me first" message. I know that this is "RTFM" kind of
> problem, but things like this (putting in Start menu an icon,
> which doesn't start anything) can scare off newbies.
> An alternative solution would be to give an option to start
> unlocking image directly from installer.

We agree, but I'm afraid we're going to have to live with it for now.

>
> When I'm closing Dolphin and the "Please confirm..." dialog
> about saving image is being displayed, mouse pointer for other
> Dolphin windows changes to "Cursor wait". Somehow, that doesn't
> look right - it is a sign, that _I_ have to wait, not that
> _Dolphin_ is waiting for me.

The wait cursor is standard windows behaviour for a task modal message box,
the only kind of prompt that makes sense in that circumstance. I've often
thought the no-entry icon would be better, but there it is.

>
> On SystemBrowser's toolbar the "Up One Level", "Back" and
> "Forward" icons are enabled even when not applicable. This could
> be deliberate, as they looked ugly in disabled state in 4.0.

It is an XP style thing. If you look closely you'll notice that disabled
buttons no longer get greyed out, but they don't "highlight" or display a
tooltip when you hover over them.

> In SystemBrowser select CampSmalltalk (or pretty much any other) folder
> and, from context menu, BrowseFolder. It will walkback if packages were
> not exported to disk.

Thanks, #858.

Regards

Blair