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Something is wrong: the documentation or the implementation of WV 1.1

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The WV documentation says:

 >Undeclared Variables
 >This is an error that appears when you are using a variable that has
not been declared within the method. It may be a temporary, instance,
or class variable. In VisualWorks, you are prompted to create the
variable. In WebVelocity, the expression following the >variable is
highlighted in red and you must correct the error before the method
can be saved."

But if you introduce an undeclared variable while writing a method it
is compiled without an error message and the variable is declared
behind the scenes (where actually?).

I find this an annoying behavior.

Joh.



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Re: Something is wrong: the documentation or the implementation of WV 1.1

Michael Lucas-Smith-2
You're right, it's getting declared as a global, until you declare it as an inst var or temp yourself -- which might be hard to do if you don't notice it.

Michael

On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Dr. Johannes Brauer wrote:

> The WV documentation says:
>
> >Undeclared Variables
> >This is an error that appears when you are using a variable that has
> not been declared within the method. It may be a temporary, instance,
> or class variable. In VisualWorks, you are prompted to create the
> variable. In WebVelocity, the expression following the >variable is
> highlighted in red and you must correct the error before the method
> can be saved."
>
> But if you introduce an undeclared variable while writing a method it
> is compiled without an error message and the variable is declared
> behind the scenes (where actually?).
>
> I find this an annoying behavior.
>
> Joh.
>
>
>
> Prof. Dr.-Ing. Johannes Brauer
> Fachbereichsleiter Informatik
> Tel.: 04121 409030
> Fax.: 04121 409040
> e-mail: [hidden email]
> e-mal priv.: [hidden email]
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> Staatlich anerkannte private Fachhochschule
> NORDAKADEMIE
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> Köllner Chaussee 11
> 25337 Elmshorn
>
> Vorstand:
> Prof. Dr. Georg Plate (Vorsitzender), Dipl.-Ing. Jörg Meier (stellv. Vorstand)
>
> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
> Dr. h.c. Hans-Heinrich Bruns
>
> Sitz:
> Elmshorn, Amtsgericht Elmshorn, HRB 1682
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Re: Something is wrong: the documentation or the implementation of WV 1.1

jb
Is there any chance to get the WV 1.0 behavior back?

Johannes
Am 23.09.2010 um 08:39 schrieb Michael Lucas-Smith:

> You're right, it's getting declared as a global, until you declare
> it as an inst var or temp yourself -- which might be hard to do if
> you don't notice it.
>
> Michael
>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Dr. Johannes Brauer wrote:
>
>> The WV documentation says:
>>
>>> Undeclared Variables
>>> This is an error that appears when you are using a variable that has
>> not been declared within the method. It may be a temporary, instance,
>> or class variable. In VisualWorks, you are prompted to create the
>> variable. In WebVelocity, the expression following the >variable is
>> highlighted in red and you must correct the error before the method
>> can be saved."
>>
>> But if you introduce an undeclared variable while writing a method it
>> is compiled without an error message and the variable is declared
>> behind the scenes (where actually?).
>>
>> I find this an annoying behavior.
>>
>> Joh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Prof. Dr.-Ing. Johannes Brauer
>> Fachbereichsleiter Informatik
>> Tel.: 04121 409030
>> Fax.: 04121 409040
>> e-mail: [hidden email]
>> e-mal priv.: [hidden email]
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>> Staatlich anerkannte private Fachhochschule
>> NORDAKADEMIE
>> Gemeinnützige Aktiengesellschaft
>> Köllner Chaussee 11
>> 25337 Elmshorn
>>
>> Vorstand:
>> Prof. Dr. Georg Plate (Vorsitzender), Dipl.-Ing. Jörg Meier
>> (stellv. Vorstand)
>>
>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
>> Dr. h.c. Hans-Heinrich Bruns
>>
>> Sitz:
>> Elmshorn, Amtsgericht Elmshorn, HRB 1682
>>
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Re: Something is wrong: the documentation or the implementation of WV 1.1

Michael Lucas-Smith-2
I've made the AR for it. While we're handling compilation errors correctly, we're not handling compilation warnings at all - we really need to provide that information in the UI and in this particular case, provide you a way to add it as an instance variable right then and there.

Michael

On Sep 23, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Dr. Johannes Brauer wrote:

> Is there any chance to get the WV 1.0 behavior back?
>
> Johannes
> Am 23.09.2010 um 08:39 schrieb Michael Lucas-Smith:
>
>> You're right, it's getting declared as a global, until you declare
>> it as an inst var or temp yourself -- which might be hard to do if
>> you don't notice it.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Dr. Johannes Brauer wrote:
>>
>>> The WV documentation says:
>>>
>>>> Undeclared Variables
>>>> This is an error that appears when you are using a variable that has
>>> not been declared within the method. It may be a temporary, instance,
>>> or class variable. In VisualWorks, you are prompted to create the
>>> variable. In WebVelocity, the expression following the >variable is
>>> highlighted in red and you must correct the error before the method
>>> can be saved."
>>>
>>> But if you introduce an undeclared variable while writing a method it
>>> is compiled without an error message and the variable is declared
>>> behind the scenes (where actually?).
>>>
>>> I find this an annoying behavior.
>>>
>>> Joh.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Prof. Dr.-Ing. Johannes Brauer
>>> Fachbereichsleiter Informatik
>>> Tel.: 04121 409030
>>> Fax.: 04121 409040
>>> e-mail: [hidden email]
>>> e-mal priv.: [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Staatlich anerkannte private Fachhochschule
>>> NORDAKADEMIE
>>> Gemeinnützige Aktiengesellschaft
>>> Köllner Chaussee 11
>>> 25337 Elmshorn
>>>
>>> Vorstand:
>>> Prof. Dr. Georg Plate (Vorsitzender), Dipl.-Ing. Jörg Meier
>>> (stellv. Vorstand)
>>>
>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
>>> Dr. h.c. Hans-Heinrich Bruns
>>>
>>> Sitz:
>>> Elmshorn, Amtsgericht Elmshorn, HRB 1682
>>>
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