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Spanish Mailing list for Pharo
 
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Dear List,
Currently there is no dedicated mailing list for Pharo for Spanish speakers. After some discussion with Edgar Cleene, we can use the Argentina Squeak mailing list for dicussing about Pharo in Spanish. I do not see an immediate need for creating a new mailing list. SqueakRos has many participants and is widely known. To subscribe: http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/ You need a yahoo account to register, but you can then register any arbitrary email address to receive and send emails. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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We will welcome all the people wanting to talk about Pharo/Squeak/off
topic also :) on SqueakRos in Spanish! 2009/11/25 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: > Dear List, > > Currently there is no dedicated mailing list for Pharo for Spanish > speakers. After some discussion with Edgar Cleene, we can use the > Argentina Squeak mailing list for dicussing about Pharo in Spanish. I > do not see an immediate need for creating a new mailing list. > SqueakRos has many participants and is widely known. > > To subscribe: http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/ > You need a yahoo account to register, but you can then register any > arbitrary email address to receive and send emails. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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cool
On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Germán Arduino wrote: > We will welcome all the people wanting to talk about Pharo/Squeak/off > topic also :) on SqueakRos in Spanish! > > > > 2009/11/25 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >> Dear List, >> >> Currently there is no dedicated mailing list for Pharo for Spanish >> speakers. After some discussion with Edgar Cleene, we can use the >> Argentina Squeak mailing list for dicussing about Pharo in Spanish. I >> do not see an immediate need for creating a new mailing list. >> SqueakRos has many participants and is widely known. >> >> To subscribe: http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/ >> You need a yahoo account to register, but you can then register any >> arbitrary email address to receive and send emails. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I couldn't find it.
My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the answer was in an another guy. In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is spanish is a good idea :) Cheers Mariano On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: cool _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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As soon as a significant effort is required to communicate in a
foreign language, then everybody may loose something. A Spanish mailing list is as important as a French or German one. SqueakRos apparently is quite active and has many participants. I will simply use it to share my views on Pharo and maybe Moose. Cheers, Alexandre On 26 Nov 2009, at 20:43, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 > but I couldn't find it. > > My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a > Pharo in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I > guess others spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least > well enough to communicate. And even more nowadays where you have > google translate and all that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use > to speak english they do a little effort. With this, everybody can > read those emails. If they are only sent to the spanish lists, only > those people will read it. And maybe the answer was in an another guy. > > In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig > list is spanish is a good idea :) > > Cheers > > Mariano > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email] > > wrote: > cool > > On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Germán Arduino wrote: > > > We will welcome all the people wanting to talk about Pharo/Squeak/ > off > > topic also :) on SqueakRos in Spanish! > > > > > > > > 2009/11/25 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: > >> Dear List, > >> > >> Currently there is no dedicated mailing list for Pharo for Spanish > >> speakers. After some discussion with Edgar Cleene, we can use the > >> Argentina Squeak mailing list for dicussing about Pharo in > Spanish. I > >> do not see an immediate need for creating a new mailing list. > >> SqueakRos has many participants and is widely known. > >> > >> To subscribe: http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/ > >> You need a yahoo account to register, but you can then register any > >> arbitrary email address to receive and send emails. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck
2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>:
> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I > couldn't find it. > > My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo > in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others > spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to > communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all > that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a > little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only > sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the > answer was in an another guy. > > In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is > spanish is a good idea :) I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain users that want to expose their problems. In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of books in your language or some local events. -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and
don't have problems asking on the international lists, but exist another universe of people, starting with Pharo/Squeak, most of them students that prefer to have a beginners list on their own language. Just an opinion. Cheers. 2009/11/27 Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: > 2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I >> couldn't find it. >> >> My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo >> in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others >> spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to >> communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all >> that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a >> little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only >> sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the >> answer was in an another guy. >> >> In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is >> spanish is a good idea :) > > I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. > It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. > Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain > users that want to expose their problems. > In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. > You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of > books in your language or some local events. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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thanks for being so understanding!.
a beginner. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Germán Arduino <[hidden email]> wrote: I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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In reply to this post by garduino
yes do a spanish mailing-list and have fun.
Stef On Nov 27, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Germán Arduino wrote: > I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and > don't have problems asking on the international lists, but exist another > universe of people, starting with Pharo/Squeak, most of them students > that prefer to have a beginners list on their own language. > > Just an opinion. > > Cheers. > > > 2009/11/27 Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: >> 2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >>> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I >>> couldn't find it. >>> >>> My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo >>> in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others >>> spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to >>> communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all >>> that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a >>> little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only >>> sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the >>> answer was in an another guy. >>> >>> In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is >>> spanish is a good idea :) >> >> I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. >> It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. >> Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain >> users that want to expose their problems. >> In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. >> You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of >> books in your language or some local events. >> >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >> Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] >> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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welcome
we are all beginner for something :) On Nov 27, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > thanks for being so understanding!. > > a beginner. > > > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Germán Arduino <[hidden email]> wrote: > I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and > don't have problems asking on the international lists, but exist another > universe of people, starting with Pharo/Squeak, most of them students > that prefer to have a beginners list on their own language. > > Just an opinion. > > Cheers. > > > 2009/11/27 Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: > > 2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > >> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I > >> couldn't find it. > >> > >> My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo > >> in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others > >> spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to > >> communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all > >> that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a > >> little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only > >> sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the > >> answer was in an another guy. > >> > >> In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is > >> spanish is a good idea :) > > > > I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. > > It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. > > Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain > > users that want to expose their problems. > > In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. > > You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of > > books in your language or some local events. > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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