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Manfred Kröhnert
Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
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Clément Béra
Hey,

Accepting a text usually means the is compiled. To accept a text, right click on it, then click accept in the contextual menu (at the bottom). You can also do it with Cmd+s on Mac.

Try again and tell us if the #whenTextIsAccepted: works fine in your image or not.

Best,



2013/10/24 Benjamin <[hidden email]>
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
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Manfred Kröhnert
Hello Ben and Clément,

thanks for the quick reply.
But even when I hit Cmd+s the Text of the label stays the same and the button is not enabled.
No matter if I use 'whenTextChanged:' or 'whenTextIsAccepted:'.

I only tested this in the Pharo 2.0 image.

Best,
Manfred






On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey,

Accepting a text usually means the is compiled. To accept a text, right click on it, then click accept in the contextual menu (at the bottom). You can also do it with Cmd+s on Mac.

Try again and tell us if the #whenTextIsAccepted: works fine in your image or not.

Best,



2013/10/24 Benjamin <[hidden email]>
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
Can you try in 3.0, since Spec changed *a lot* in the meantime 

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:25, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello Ben and Clément,

thanks for the quick reply.
But even when I hit Cmd+s the Text of the label stays the same and the button is not enabled.
No matter if I use 'whenTextChanged:' or 'whenTextIsAccepted:'.

I only tested this in the Pharo 2.0 image.

Best,
Manfred






On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey,

Accepting a text usually means the is compiled. To accept a text, right click on it, then click accept in the contextual menu (at the bottom). You can also do it with Cmd+s on Mac.

Try again and tell us if the #whenTextIsAccepted: works fine in your image or not.

Best,



2013/10/24 Benjamin <[hidden email]>
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
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Manfred Kröhnert
Yes, I can do that but it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
Will report back, soon.

Thanks for the help so far,
Manfred




On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Can you try in 3.0, since Spec changed *a lot* in the meantime 

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:25, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello Ben and Clément,

thanks for the quick reply.
But even when I hit Cmd+s the Text of the label stays the same and the button is not enabled.
No matter if I use 'whenTextChanged:' or 'whenTextIsAccepted:'.

I only tested this in the Pharo 2.0 image.

Best,
Manfred






On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey,

Accepting a text usually means the is compiled. To accept a text, right click on it, then click accept in the contextual menu (at the bottom). You can also do it with Cmd+s on Mac.

Try again and tell us if the #whenTextIsAccepted: works fine in your image or not.

Best,



2013/10/24 Benjamin <[hidden email]>
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
Ok :)

Thank you, and see you tomorrow :P

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:34, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, I can do that but it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
Will report back, soon.

Thanks for the help so far,
Manfred




On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Can you try in 3.0, since Spec changed *a lot* in the meantime 

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:25, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello Ben and Clément,

thanks for the quick reply.
But even when I hit Cmd+s the Text of the label stays the same and the button is not enabled.
No matter if I use 'whenTextChanged:' or 'whenTextIsAccepted:'.

I only tested this in the Pharo 2.0 image.

Best,
Manfred






On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey,

Accepting a text usually means the is compiled. To accept a text, right click on it, then click accept in the contextual menu (at the bottom). You can also do it with Cmd+s on Mac.

Try again and tell us if the #whenTextIsAccepted: works fine in your image or not.

Best,



2013/10/24 Benjamin <[hidden email]>
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
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Manfred Kröhnert
Hi,

I tested it it without hurrying today.
Using Cmd+s with 'whenTextIsAccepted:' works both on Pharo 2.0 and 3.0.
Unfortunately I exchanged the TextModel with TextInputFieldModel where it did not work.

However, using 'whenTextChanged:' does not work or at least not how I expect it to work.
From the naming I would that this message gets triggered, once something was typed into the textfield.
But apparently it doesn't get triggered at all in my case (Pharo 2.0 and 3.0).
Any ideas?

Best,
Manfred





On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok :)

Thank you, and see you tomorrow :P

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:34, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, I can do that but it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
Will report back, soon.

Thanks for the help so far,
Manfred




On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Can you try in 3.0, since Spec changed *a lot* in the meantime 

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:25, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello Ben and Clément,

thanks for the quick reply.
But even when I hit Cmd+s the Text of the label stays the same and the button is not enabled.
No matter if I use 'whenTextChanged:' or 'whenTextIsAccepted:'.

I only tested this in the Pharo 2.0 image.

Best,
Manfred






On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey,

Accepting a text usually means the is compiled. To accept a text, right click on it, then click accept in the contextual menu (at the bottom). You can also do it with Cmd+s on Mac.

Try again and tell us if the #whenTextIsAccepted: works fine in your image or not.

Best,



2013/10/24 Benjamin <[hidden email]>
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
On 25 Oct 2013, at 11:34, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

I tested it it without hurrying today.
Using Cmd+s with 'whenTextIsAccepted:' works both on Pharo 2.0 and 3.0.
Unfortunately I exchanged the TextModel with TextInputFieldModel where it did not work.

However, using 'whenTextChanged:' does not work or at least not how I expect it to work.
From the naming I would that this message gets triggered, once something was typed into the textfield.
But apparently it doesn't get triggered at all in my case (Pharo 2.0 and 3.0).
Any ideas?

Right now, I can’t see why

Must probably the event is not triggered, or not at the correct moment

Ben


Best,
Manfred





On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok :)

Thank you, and see you tomorrow :P

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:34, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, I can do that but it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
Will report back, soon.

Thanks for the help so far,
Manfred




On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Can you try in 3.0, since Spec changed *a lot* in the meantime 

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:25, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello Ben and Clément,

thanks for the quick reply.
But even when I hit Cmd+s the Text of the label stays the same and the button is not enabled.
No matter if I use 'whenTextChanged:' or 'whenTextIsAccepted:'.

I only tested this in the Pharo 2.0 image.

Best,
Manfred






On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey,

Accepting a text usually means the is compiled. To accept a text, right click on it, then click accept in the contextual menu (at the bottom). You can also do it with Cmd+s on Mac.

Try again and tell us if the #whenTextIsAccepted: works fine in your image or not.

Best,



2013/10/24 Benjamin <[hidden email]>
Text is accepted when you “save” it (cmd+s)

Ben

On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I finally got around to check back on a Spec question that popped up about two weeks ago.

At that time I was giving Spec a first try and gathered information from a couple of sources.
One of them was the draft chapter about Spec from the Pharo for the Enterprise book.


The example has the following method:

TestSpec>>initializePresenter
    example whenTextIsAccepted: [ changes text: 'The text Changed'. acceptChanges enable ].

This should change the text of the 'changes' LabelModel when the text in the 'example' TextModel is accepted.
Now, there the issue for me was that the Label text did not change once when I typed text into the presented textfield.
Even when I changed the method from 'whenTextIsAccepted:' to 'whenTextChanged:'.
Is this intended or is this an issue with Spec?

Also, it is not clear to me what 'accepting' text means (maybe I didn't look thoroughly enough).
The method comment just states that it is called when the text is accepted.
Which is kind of self referential ;-)

The OS X Pharo versions I used for testing where newly downloaded Pharo 2.0 and 3.0 from about 2 weeks ago.
They were downloaded from here:

Best,
Manfred
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