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Spec website: nice!

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Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project for Spec.


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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2
Wow, this is seriously cool & professional, really. Very well done.

This really raises the bar for presenting similar projects.

Great work, Ben !

PS: And an .st domain name is not cheap ;-)

On 28 Feb 2014, at 10:59, [hidden email] wrote:

> Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project for Spec.
>
> http://spec.st/
>
> Phil


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Goubier Thierry
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Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] a écrit :
> Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
> for Spec.
>
> http://spec.st/
>
> Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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You blew up my surprise :)

It is still work in progress that’s why I did not announce it before

(you know, to not announce something before it’s finished :P)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 10:59, [hidden email] wrote:

Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project for Spec.


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Re: Spec website: nice!

Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

I will have a look next week :P
(or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'<a href="github://SpecForPharo/spec:master'">github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] a écrit :
Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
for Spec.

http://spec.st/

Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

Goubier Thierry


Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :
> Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking
support for gitfiletree in Metacello.

> I will have a look next week :P
> (or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is
broken :)

Thierry

> Ben
>
> On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.
>>
>> Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
>> 'github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>> Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> a
>> écrit :
>>> Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
>>> for Spec.
>>>
>>> http://spec.st/
>>>
>>> Phil
>>
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Olivier Auverlot
Hi Benjamin

It's very cool ! The website and the documentation are very pleasant and well presented. Perhaps you could add links to the Pharo web site and the RMoD team ?

Olivier ;-)


2014-02-28 11:34 GMT+01:00 Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>:


Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :

Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking support for gitfiletree in Metacello.


I will have a look next week :P
(or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is broken :)

Thierry

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> a

écrit :
Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
for Spec.

http://spec.st/

Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:34, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:



Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :
Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking support for gitfiletree in Metacello.

I will have a look next week :P
(or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is broken :)

Yes I renamed the association :)

That’s one of the reason I did not publicly announce it…


Ben


Thierry

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
<[hidden email]>> wrote:

Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'<a href="github://SpecForPharo/spec:master'">github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> a
écrit :
Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
for Spec.

http://spec.st/

Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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Yes, there is a “thanks” page missing.


Again, the website is not ready for public :)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:05, olivier auverlot <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Benjamin

It's very cool ! The website and the documentation are very pleasant and well presented. Perhaps you could add links to the Pharo web site and the RMoD team ?

Olivier ;-)


2014-02-28 11:34 GMT+01:00 Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>:


Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :

Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking support for gitfiletree in Metacello.


I will have a look next week :P
(or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is broken :)

Thierry

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'<a href="github://SpecForPharo/spec:">github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> a

écrit :
Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
for Spec.

http://spec.st/

Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

kilon.alios
definitely a very beautiful and well designed website. Well done Benjamin. Looks very professional yet it has a personal touch. I love it. 

Quite a surprise , I did not see this coming :)  

Talking about websites I am curious, is there a plan to bring Spec to Javascript side , in particular , Amber ? 

I have seen that Amber has it as a goal, but I was curious how much of a serious goal it is. I think it would be very cool if Spec could leverage HTML/CSS/JS GUI wise. 


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, there is a “thanks” page missing.


Again, the website is not ready for public :)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:05, olivier auverlot <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Benjamin

It's very cool ! The website and the documentation are very pleasant and well presented. Perhaps you could add links to the Pharo web site and the RMoD team ?

Olivier ;-)


2014-02-28 11:34 GMT+01:00 Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>:


Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :

Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking support for gitfiletree in Metacello.


I will have a look next week :P
(or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is broken :)

Thierry

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> a

écrit :
Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
for Spec.

http://spec.st/

Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:40, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

definitely a very beautiful and well designed website. Well done Benjamin. Looks very professional yet it has a personal touch. I love it. 

Thank you :)

Talking about websites I am curious, is there a plan to bring Spec to Javascript side , in particular , Amber ? 

We proposed it as a GSoC project.
But as you know ESUG was not selected as partner.

With Nicolas we are discussing since a while about how to move Spec on Amber.
The battle plan is quite set up :)

Now, we just need man power (as usual)

I have seen that Amber has it as a goal, but I was curious how much of a serious goal it is. I think it would be very cool if Spec could leverage HTML/CSS/JS GUI wise. 

Nicolas is now developing a widget framework for Amber (Moka).
The goal is to finish that, and then to plug Spec on top of it.

We would like to have it for Amber 1.0
(but we do not know when it would be :P )

Ben



On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, there is a “thanks” page missing.


Again, the website is not ready for public :)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:05, olivier auverlot <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Benjamin

It's very cool ! The website and the documentation are very pleasant and well presented. Perhaps you could add links to the Pharo web site and the RMoD team ?

Olivier ;-)


2014-02-28 11:34 GMT+01:00 Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>:


Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :

Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking support for gitfiletree in Metacello.


I will have a look next week :P
(or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is broken :)

Thierry

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> a

écrit :
Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
for Spec.

http://spec.st/

Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

Esteban A. Maringolo
Nice website!

Well done guys!
Esteban A. Maringolo


2014-02-28 9:47 GMT-03:00 Benjamin <[hidden email]>:

> On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:40, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> definitely a very beautiful and well designed website. Well done Benjamin.
> Looks very professional yet it has a personal touch. I love it.
>
>
> Thank you :)
>
> Talking about websites I am curious, is there a plan to bring Spec to
> Javascript side , in particular , Amber ?
>
>
> We proposed it as a GSoC project.
> But as you know ESUG was not selected as partner.
>
> With Nicolas we are discussing since a while about how to move Spec on
> Amber.
> The battle plan is quite set up :)
>
> Now, we just need man power (as usual)
>
> I have seen that Amber has it as a goal, but I was curious how much of a
> serious goal it is. I think it would be very cool if Spec could leverage
> HTML/CSS/JS GUI wise.
>
>
> Nicolas is now developing a widget framework for Amber (Moka).
> The goal is to finish that, and then to plug Spec on top of it.
>
> We would like to have it for Amber 1.0
> (but we do not know when it would be :P )
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Benjamin
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, there is a "thanks" page missing.
>>
>>
>> Again, the website is not ready for public :)
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:05, olivier auverlot <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Benjamin
>>
>> It's very cool ! The website and the documentation are very pleasant and
>> well presented. Perhaps you could add links to the Pharo web site and the
>> RMoD team ?
>>
>> Olivier ;-)
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-28 11:34 GMT+01:00 Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking
>>> support for gitfiletree in Metacello.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I will have a look next week :P
>>>> (or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)
>>>
>>>
>>> Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is
>>> broken :)
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
>>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
>>>>> 'github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> a
>>>>>
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
>>>>>> for Spec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://spec.st/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>
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kilon.alios
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I see, thanks for the information 

Never heard of Moka, I will do some digging , sounds exciting. 


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:40, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

definitely a very beautiful and well designed website. Well done Benjamin. Looks very professional yet it has a personal touch. I love it. 

Thank you :)

Talking about websites I am curious, is there a plan to bring Spec to Javascript side , in particular , Amber ? 

We proposed it as a GSoC project.
But as you know ESUG was not selected as partner.

With Nicolas we are discussing since a while about how to move Spec on Amber.
The battle plan is quite set up :)

Now, we just need man power (as usual)

I have seen that Amber has it as a goal, but I was curious how much of a serious goal it is. I think it would be very cool if Spec could leverage HTML/CSS/JS GUI wise. 

Nicolas is now developing a widget framework for Amber (Moka).
The goal is to finish that, and then to plug Spec on top of it.

We would like to have it for Amber 1.0
(but we do not know when it would be :P )

Ben



On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, there is a “thanks” page missing.


Again, the website is not ready for public :)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 13:05, olivier auverlot <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Benjamin

It's very cool ! The website and the documentation are very pleasant and well presented. Perhaps you could add links to the Pharo web site and the RMoD team ?

Olivier ;-)


2014-02-28 11:34 GMT+01:00 Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>:


Le 28/02/2014 11:26, Benjamin a écrit :

Because I did not knew about it until yesterday :)

Took me a while to understand that too :) Found the code when hacking support for gitfiletree in Metacello.


I will have a look next week :P
(or if you want to submit a PR before LOL)

Hum, maybe over the week-end then. By the way, your link to github is broken :)

Thierry

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 11:10, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Yes, this is cool :) Nice work.

Benjamin, why don't you do a ConfigurationOfSpec with an url of
'github://SpecForPharo/spec:master' ?

Thierry

Le 28/02/2014 10:59, [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> a

écrit :
Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project
for Spec.

http://spec.st/

Phil

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Re: Spec website: nice!

LogiqueWerks
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Ben,

congrat's on this Spec site

I especially liked what I read at

http://spec.st/docs/own-model/#the_adapter

I look forward to recommending this site to folks not yet familiar with Smalltalk but with a UI interest/experience

Robret


On 28 February 2014 06:25, Benjamin <[hidden email]> wrote:
You blew up my surprise :)

It is still work in progress that’s why I did not announce it before

(you know, to not announce something before it’s finished :P)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 10:59, [hidden email] wrote:

Didn't knew about it and came across by looking at the GitHub project for Spec.


Phil


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Re: Spec website: nice!

kmo
This is really good and very well done and can only get better over time.

I'd like to see a complete API and description of every Spec Model added to the site and there needs to be multiple examples so that the whole range of widgets and interface types are shown.

Brilliant start, though.  
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Is it working yet?

Garth Holland
Hi Guys,

Every so often I spend a few minutes taking a look a Pharo or Squeak. I can see much improvement but before long I find something that does not work.

1) I'm a Widows user and there is no keyboard mapping for switching the alt to control keys

2) I tried the debugger and the "Add breakpoint" menu command appears to corrupt the stepping into behavior.

3) Next I tried the new Spec website.

Should the code on the Quick Start page read.

(ListModel new 
    items: Smalltalk allClasses)
    openWithSpec. 


Thanks,

Steve
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Re: Is it working yet?

philippeback
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM, S. Garth Holland <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Guys,

Every so often I spend a few minutes taking a look a Pharo or Squeak. I can see much improvement but before long I find something that does not work.

1) I'm a Widows user and there is no keyboard mapping for switching the alt to control keys

So? Alt on Windows replaces Cmd on OSX for Doits, Printits etc. Ctrl-X,V,C on Win matches Cmd-X,V,C on OSX.

2) I tried the debugger and the "Add breakpoint" menu command appears to corrupt the stepping into behavior.

Adding self halt works nicer as the add/remove breakpoint basically does that behind the scenes. 

3) Next I tried the new Spec website.

Should the code on the Quick Start page read.

(ListModel new 
    items: Smalltalk allClasses)
    openWithSpec. 
 

Thanks,

Steve

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Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)
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I would love too :)

But as always it takes time.

I try to do my best to offer an easy to read yet useful documentation.
Let’s hope we can make it :)

Ben

On 28 Feb 2014, at 19:54, kmo <[hidden email]> wrote:

This is really good and very well done and can only get better over time.

I'd like to see a complete API and description of every Spec Model added to
the site and there needs to be multiple examples so that the whole range of
widgets and interface types are shown.

Brilliant start, though.   



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Re: Is it working yet? (how long is a piece of string?)

Ben Coman
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S. Garth Holland wrote:
Hi Guys,
Every so often I spend a few minutes taking a look a Pharo or Squeak. I can see much improvement but before long I find something that does not work.


Each time you report an issue, "working yet" will get there much faster for you.  Thanks for reporting these.

1) I'm a Widows user and there is no keyboard mapping for switching the alt to control keys

I'm a Windows 7 user and have no problems in my workflow - but I don't know if thats just because I've adapted to the system-as-it-is or otherwise.  Could you be more specific about what behaviour you want from particular alt/control keys?

2) I tried the debugger and the "Add breakpoint" menu command appears to corrupt the stepping into behavior.
Nice find. Actually I've never used it but I've reproduced the issue and opened a case for it.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/edit/13019
You can sign up at pharo.fogbugz.com to subscribe to the case.

Anything else that you've found?

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Is it working yet?

Garth Holland
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1) I'm a Widows user and there is no keyboard mapping for switching the alt to control keys

So? Alt on Windows replaces Cmd on OSX for Doits, Printits etc. Ctrl-X,V,C on Win matches Cmd-X,V,C on OSX.

Control x,c,v,f,s all work as expected. For consistency, I would like control p to print, control i to inspect, control e to explore, and control d to doit.

    2) I tried the debugger and the "Add breakpoint" menu command appears to corrupt the stepping into behavior.

Adding self halt works nicer as the add/remove breakpoint basically does that behind the scenes.

Using the "Add breakpoint" menu item feels more lightweight and does not affect the version history.
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