Squeak 3.9?

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> All,
>
>
>
> As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing I was
> wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using Squeak 3.9 for
> production or development and how is the stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?

> I'm still hitting some freezing issues with 3.9.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
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>

> As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing
> I was wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using
> Squeak 3.9 for production or development and how is the
> stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?
>
>  
>
> I'm still hitting some freezing issues with 3.9.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
>  
>
> Ron Teitelbaum

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:seaside-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Philippe Marschall
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:16 PM
> To: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Squeak 3.9?
>
> 2007/2/14, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]>:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing I was
> > wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using Squeak 3.9 for
> > production or development and how is the stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?
>
> We are, (in)stability is about the same, difference is that the only
> patch you need to run against is TTF Font Caching (and made two
> DateAndTime patches or use Chronos in the first place).
>
> Philippe
>
> > I'm still hitting some freezing issues with 3.9.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Teitelbaum
> > _______________________________________________
> > Seaside mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
> >
> >
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> From: Lukas Renggli
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:36 PM
> To: [hidden email]; The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general
>
> > As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing I was
> > wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using Squeak 3.9 for
> > production or development and how is the stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?
>
> I use 3.9 for development and deployment of industrial application.
> Furthermore, all my Seaside, Scriptaculous, Pier and Magritte
> development is going on in 3.9.
>
> Squeak 3.9 is noticeably faster than 3.8 and fixes most annoying bugs
> related to internalization and wide strings. Moreover it provides a
> lot of valuable enhancements (e.g. the pragmas) that I wouldn't want
> to miss ...
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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> I was considering back porting, so I'm glad to hear it.  I really  
> like 3.9.
> I'm sure as was suggested that I am causing my own problems.  I'm  
> doing a
> lot of comm and threading, but it seems that I loose gui control  
> often and
> even though seaside is still responding and I see transcript  
> messages I can
> not get control back!  I still haven't tried the VNC trick so maybe  
> I'll try
> that.
>
> Thanks everyone.  I guess if all else fails I'll port to Pavel's 3.7!
>
> Ron
>
>> From: Lukas Renggli
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:36 PM
>> To: [hidden email]; The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server -  
>> general
>>
>>> As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing I was
>>> wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using Squeak  
>>> 3.9 for
>>> production or development and how is the stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?
>>
>> I use 3.9 for development and deployment of industrial application.
>> Furthermore, all my Seaside, Scriptaculous, Pier and Magritte
>> development is going on in 3.9.
>>
>> Squeak 3.9 is noticeably faster than 3.8 and fixes most annoying bugs
>> related to internalization and wide strings. Moreover it provides a
>> lot of valuable enhancements (e.g. the pragmas) that I wouldn't want
>> to miss ...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lukas
>>
>> --
>> Lukas Renggli
>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
>> _______________________________________________
>> Seaside mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing I was
> wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using Squeak 3.9 for
> production or development and how is the stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?
>
>
>
> I'm still hitting some freezing issues with 3.9.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
> _______________________________________________
> Seaside mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>
>

> Ron
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:seaside-
> > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Philippe Marschall
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:16 PM
> > To: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.
> > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Squeak 3.9?
> >
> > 2007/2/14, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing I was
> > > wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using Squeak 3.9 for
> > > production or development and how is the stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?
> >
> > We are, (in)stability is about the same, difference is that the only
> > patch you need to run against is TTF Font Caching (and made two
> > DateAndTime patches or use Chronos in the first place).
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> > > I'm still hitting some freezing issues with 3.9.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ron Teitelbaum
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Seaside mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Seaside mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

> I was considering back porting, so I'm glad to hear it.  I really like 3.9.
> I'm sure as was suggested that I am causing my own problems.  I'm doing a
> lot of comm and threading, but it seems that I loose gui control often and
> even though seaside is still responding and I see transcript messages I can
> not get control back!  I still haven't tried the VNC trick so maybe I'll try
> that.
>
> Thanks everyone.  I guess if all else fails I'll port to Pavel's 3.7!
>
> Ron
>  

> I was considering back porting, so I'm glad to hear it.  I really like
> 3.9.
> I'm sure as was suggested that I am causing my own problems.  I'm doing a
> lot of comm and threading, but it seems that I loose gui control often
> and
> even though seaside is still responding and I see transcript messages
> I can
> not get control back!  I still haven't tried the VNC trick so maybe
> I'll try
> that.
>
>  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Hodges [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:54 AM
> To: [hidden email]; The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general
> discussion.
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Squeak 3.9?
>
> Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
> > I was considering back porting, so I'm glad to hear it.  I really like
> 3.9.
> > I'm sure as was suggested that I am causing my own problems.  I'm doing
> a
> > lot of comm and threading, but it seems that I loose gui control often
> and
> > even though seaside is still responding and I see transcript messages I
> can
> > not get control back!  I still haven't tried the VNC trick so maybe I'll
> try
> > that.
> >
> > Thanks everyone.  I guess if all else fails I'll port to Pavel's 3.7!
> >
> > Ron
> >
> I found that using vm 3.6-3 solved my instability freezing issues with 3.9
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Lienhard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:43 PM
>
> sounds familiar... For us using the screenshot application also
> helped to revive the image. If you happen to get more data points it
> would be worth opening a Mantis report for that issue.
>
> As Lukas and Philippe reported, apart from that issue, 3.9 is working
> fine for us.
>
> Adrian
>
> Btw, I wouldn't leave a transcript open, apparently its not thread safe.
>

> Is this the TTF cache patch you are talking about?
>
> http://hedgehog.software.umn.edu:8888/Homebase/Multilingual-ar.17.mcz
>
> Ron
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:seaside-
>> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Philippe Marschall
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:16 PM
>> To: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.
>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Squeak 3.9?
>>
>> 2007/2/14, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As long as we are on the subject about what people are doing I was
>>> wondering, for the people using squeak, is anyone using Squeak  
>>> 3.9 for
>>> production or development and how is the stability of 3.9 vs. 3.8?
>>
>> We are, (in)stability is about the same, difference is that the only
>> patch you need to run against is TTF Font Caching (and made two
>> DateAndTime patches or use Chronos in the first place).
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>>> I'm still hitting some freezing issues with 3.9.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Teitelbaum
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Seaside mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>>>
>>>
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> Hi!
>
>> I've run into that a number of times.  Stuck on a Transcript  
>> semaphore!
>> It's no fun, but easy to get around and still accepts a user  
>> interrupt.  I
>> need the transcript for debugging, it's almost impossible to debug  
>> threads
>> without it.  I remember just recently Bert and I were talking about
>> modifying the debugger so that it steps into threads (and even  
>> opens a new
>> debugger on the new thread).  I could really use that!!
>
> I have also hacked Transcript a few times to get around that. But in
> Gjallar we instead use Q2Log (three classes for logging, really  
> simple)
> together with Q2LogMorph that Magnus wrote. (Q2 is the Gjallar prefix)
>
> It is thread safe but above all does some neat tricks looking at the
> context sender in order to show that in the log. Then the  
> Q2LogMorph has
> three kinds of filtering:
>
> - By log level. We use the syslog levels.
> - By free text. Just type something in and press enter.
> - By sender. There is a multiselect list up to the left with all  
> senders
> "until now".
>
> And oh, another note on this - the SharedStreams package on  
> SqueakMap can
> be of help too.
>
> regards, Göran
>
> PS. If you think that Q2Log sounds interesting, drop me a private  
> note and
> I will spend the 10 minutes needed to split it out from the Gjallar  
> code.
> It is already independent but has no PI of its own yet and is not  
> yet on
> SM.
>
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