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Steve Quezadas
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can
find the image is here:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0

I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's
not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is
no readme file.

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Re: Squeak by example image

robert.kuropkat

You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10. If you are using Linux you will need to install some 32-bit Libraries. If you have trouble with that I think I have some notes on what is needed. You can also run the ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well.

Robert Kuropkat


On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can
find the image is here:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0

I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's
not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is
no readme file.
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Re: Squeak by example image

David T. Lewis
Hi Steve (and Robert),

If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then
I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can
build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old
SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.

There is no longer any official support for this, but it is maintained
informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the
VM by following the instructions at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.

I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my
64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.

I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not,
but I do not know for sure.

Dave


On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:

>
> You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10.  If you are using Linux you will
> need to install some 32-bit Libraries.  If you have trouble with that I
> think I have some notes on what is needed.  You can also run the
> ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With
> Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well.
> Robert Kuropkat
>
> On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
> > Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can
> > find the image is here:
> > http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
> > md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
> >
> > I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's
> > not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is
> > no readme file.
> >
> > _______________________________________________Beginners mailing
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners

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Re: Squeak by example image

robert.kuropkat

David,

Thank-you for the remind.  I think you mentioned this to me once before
and I had not yet followed up on it.  I'll need to give it a try soon.

Robert Kuropkat

P.S.  Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and was
able to get both images to start up in it also :-)


On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:

> Hi Steve (and Robert),
>
> If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then
> I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can
> build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old
> SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
>
> There is no longer any official support for this, but it is
> maintained
> informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the
> VM by following the instructions at
> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
>
> I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my
> 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
>
> I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not,
> but I do not know for sure.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
> >
> > You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10.  If you are using Linux you
> > will
> > need to install some 32-bit Libraries.  If you have trouble with
> > that I
> > think I have some notes on what is needed.  You can also run the
> > ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With
> > Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as
> > well.
> > Robert Kuropkat
> >
> > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
> > > Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I
> > > can
> > > find the image is here:
> > >
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip

> > > md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
> > >
> > > I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but
> > > it's
> > > not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak?
> > > There is
> > > no readme file.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________Beginners mailing
> > > [hidden email]
> > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> > _______________________________________________
> > Beginners mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>
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Re: Squeak by example image

David T. Lewis
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:10:56PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:

>
> David,
>
> Thank-you for the remind.  I think you mentioned this to me once before
> and I had not yet followed up on it.  I'll need to give it a try soon.
>
> Robert Kuropkat
>
> P.S.  Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and was
> able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
>

Oh, that is really great :-) The OS/2 version of the Squeak VM
was done by Juan Vuletich:

  http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/SqueakForOS2/SqueakForOS2Eng.html

Nowadays, Juan is the leader and inspiration behind Cuis, which
is well worth checking out:

  https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev

And of course, do not forget to look into the latest versions
of Squeak, which continues to advance at a rapid pace :-)

Dave

>
> On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
> > Hi Steve (and Robert),
> >
> > If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then
> > I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can
> > build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old
> > SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
> >
> > There is no longer any official support for this, but it is
> > maintained
> > informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the
> > VM by following the instructions at
> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
> >
> > I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my
> > 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
> >
> > I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not,
> > but I do not know for sure.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
> > >
> > > You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10.  If you are using Linux you
> > > will
> > > need to install some 32-bit Libraries.  If you have trouble with
> > > that I
> > > think I have some notes on what is needed.  You can also run the
> > > ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With
> > > Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as
> > > well.
> > > Robert Kuropkat
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
> > > > Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I
> > > > can
> > > > find the image is here:
> > > >
> http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
> > > > md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
> > > >
> > > > I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but
> > > > it's
> > > > not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak?
> > > > There is
> > > > no readme file.
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________Beginners mailing
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Beginners mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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Re: Squeak by example image

robert.kuropkat

Yep, that's where I got it! :-)  I did not realize Cuis was his also.
It is on my long todo list, as is modern Squeak and Pharo.  The fact
Squeak ran on OS/2 was my original reason for looking into it, so I was
pretty happy to see those two images would run on the OS/2 version.
I'm not exactly sure what will come of the class I am teaching, but I
hope to take the class onto newer Squeak eventually.

Believe it or not, OS/2 is still around.  I am going to be demoing the
Squeak book images on OS/2 at a small conference next month.

Robert


On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:48 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:10:56PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Thank-you for the remind.  I think you mentioned this to me once
> > before
> > and I had not yet followed up on it.  I'll need to give it a try
> > soon.
> >
> > Robert Kuropkat
> >
> > P.S.  Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and
> > was
> > able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
> >
>
> Oh, that is really great :-) The OS/2 version of the Squeak VM
> was done by Juan Vuletich:
>
>   http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/SqueakForOS2/SqueakForOS2Eng.html
>
> Nowadays, Juan is the leader and inspiration behind Cuis, which
> is well worth checking out:
>
>   https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
>
> And of course, do not forget to look into the latest versions
> of Squeak, which continues to advance at a rapid pace :-)
>
> Dave
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
> > > Hi Steve (and Robert),
> > >
> > > If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then
> > > I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can
> > > build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old
> > > SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
> > >
> > > There is no longer any official support for this, but it is
> > > maintained
> > > informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the
> > > VM by following the instructions at
> > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
> > >
> > > I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my
> > > 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
> > >
> > > I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not,
> > > but I do not know for sure.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10.  If you are using Linux you
> > > > will
> > > > need to install some 32-bit Libraries.  If you have trouble
> > > > with
> > > > that I
> > > > think I have some notes on what is needed.  You can also run
> > > > the
> > > > ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming
> > > > With
> > > > Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file
> > > > as
> > > > well.
> > > > Robert Kuropkat
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
> > > > > Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only
> > > > > place I
> > > > > can
> > > > > find the image is here:
> > > > >
> >
> >
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip

> > > > > md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2,
> > > > > but
> > > > > it's
> > > > > not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak?
> > > > > There is
> > > > > no readme file.
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________Beginners
> > > > > mailing
> > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Beginners mailing list
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Beginners mailing list
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> > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> >
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Re: Squeak by example image

Steve Quezadas
Is the conference on OS/2 or squeak?

and didn't IBM officially stop selling OS/2?

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:03 PM Robert Kuropkat <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yep, that's where I got it! :-)  I did not realize Cuis was his also.
It is on my long todo list, as is modern Squeak and Pharo.  The fact
Squeak ran on OS/2 was my original reason for looking into it, so I was
pretty happy to see those two images would run on the OS/2 version.
I'm not exactly sure what will come of the class I am teaching, but I
hope to take the class onto newer Squeak eventually.

Believe it or not, OS/2 is still around.  I am going to be demoing the
Squeak book images on OS/2 at a small conference next month.

Robert


On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:48 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:10:56PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Thank-you for the remind.  I think you mentioned this to me once
> > before
> > and I had not yet followed up on it.  I'll need to give it a try
> > soon.
> >
> > Robert Kuropkat
> >
> > P.S.  Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and
> > was
> > able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
> >
>
> Oh, that is really great :-) The OS/2 version of the Squeak VM
> was done by Juan Vuletich:
>
>   http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/SqueakForOS2/SqueakForOS2Eng.html
>
> Nowadays, Juan is the leader and inspiration behind Cuis, which
> is well worth checking out:
>
>   https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
>
> And of course, do not forget to look into the latest versions
> of Squeak, which continues to advance at a rapid pace :-)
>
> Dave
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
> > > Hi Steve (and Robert),
> > >
> > > If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then
> > > I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can
> > > build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old
> > > SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
> > >
> > > There is no longer any official support for this, but it is
> > > maintained
> > > informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the
> > > VM by following the instructions at
> > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
> > >
> > > I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my
> > > 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
> > >
> > > I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not,
> > > but I do not know for sure.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10.  If you are using Linux you
> > > > will
> > > > need to install some 32-bit Libraries.  If you have trouble
> > > > with
> > > > that I
> > > > think I have some notes on what is needed.  You can also run
> > > > the
> > > > ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming
> > > > With
> > > > Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file
> > > > as
> > > > well.
> > > > Robert Kuropkat
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
> > > > > Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only
> > > > > place I
> > > > > can
> > > > > find the image is here:
> > > > >
> >
> >
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
> > > > > md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2,
> > > > > but
> > > > > it's
> > > > > not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak?
> > > > > There is
> > > > > no readme file.
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________Beginners
> > > > > mailing
> > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Beginners mailing list
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
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Re: Squeak by example image

robert.kuropkat

It is an OS/2 Conference:


IBM did stop selling OS/2 but believe it or not, it is still out there quite a bit.  Mostly in embedded systems such as robotics, ATMs, etc.  There is a new company licensed to sell OS/2 under the name ArcaOS:


Robert Kuropkat


On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 06:31:46 -0700
Steve Quezadas <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Is the conference on OS/2 or squeak?
>
> and didn't IBM officially stop selling OS/2?
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:03 PM Ro bert Kuropkat
><[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yep, that's where I got it! :-)  I did not realize Cuis
>>was his also.
>> It is on my long todo list, as is modern Squeak and
>>Pharo.  The fact
>> Squeak ran on OS/2 was my original reason for looking
>>into it, so I was
>> pretty happy to see those two images would run on the
>>OS/2 version.
>> I'm not exactly sure what will come of the class I am
>>teaching, but I
>> hope to take the class onto newer Squeak eventually.
>>
>> Believe it or not, OS/2 is still around.  I am going to
>>be demoing the
>> Squeak book images on OS/2 at a small conference next
>>month.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:48 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:10:56PM -0400, Robert
>>Kuropkat wrote:
>> > >
>> > > David,
>> > >
>> > > Thank-you for the remind.  I think you mentioned
>>this to me once
>> > > before
>> > > and I had not yet followed up on it.  I'll need to
>>give it a try
>> > > soon.
>> > >
>> > > Robert Kuropkat
>> > >
>> > > P.S.  Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak
>>for OS/2 and
>> > > was
>> > > able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
>> > >
>> >
>> > Oh, that is really great :-) The OS/2 version of the
>>Squeak VM
>> > was done by Juan Vuletich:
>> >
>> >
>>  http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/SqueakForOS2/SqueakForOS2 Eng.html
>> >
>> > Nowadays, Juan is the leader and inspiration behind
>>Cuis, which
>> > is well worth checking out:
>> >
>> >   https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
>> >
>> > And of course, do not forget to look into the latest
>>versions
>> > of Squeak, which continues to advance at a rapid pace
>>:-)
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis
>>wrote:
>> > > > Hi Steve (and Robert),
>> > > >
>> > > > If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does
>>not work, then
>> > > > I will mention also that if you are using Linux,
>>then you can
>> > > > build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will
>>run the old
>> > > > SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux
>>machine.
>> > > >
>> > > > There is no longer any official support for this,
>>but it is
>> > > > maintained
>> > > > informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user
>>can build the
>> > > > VM by following the instructions at
>> > > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
>> > > >
>> > > > I checked by running the image in
>>SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my
>> > > > 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for
>>me.
>> > > >
>> > > > I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS
>>X. Probably not,
>> > > > but I do not know for sure.
>> > > >
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert
>>Kuropkat wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10.  If you are
>>using Linux you
>> > > > > will
>> > > > > need to install some 32-bit Libraries.  If you
>>have trouble
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > that I
>> > > > > think I have some notes on what is needed.  You
>>can also run
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak:
>>Learn Programming
>> > > > > With
>> > > > > Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the
>>V3Sources file
>> > > > > as
>> > > > > well.
>> > > > > Robert Kuropkat
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve
>>Quezadas wrote:
>> > > > > > Has anyone played around with Squeak by
>>Example? The only
>> > > > > > place I
>> > > > > > can
>> > > > > > find the image is here:
>> > > > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
>> > > > > > md5sum is here:
>>79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am
>>running 5.2,
>> > > > > > but
>> > > > > > it's
>> > > > > > not loading. Do I need t o load a previous
>>version of squeak?
>> > > > > > There is
>> > > > > > no readme file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
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