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Michael Rice-3
Hi,

I'm on a Linux(Fedora)/PC platform.

I downloaded the following to a folder I created named Squeak:

Squeak-3.10-1  (a folder containing i686-pc-linux-gnu, config.guess, and INSTALL)
Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
SqueakV39.sources

Not sure how to proceed from here. Docs in INSTALL file say

"Fetch the archive/s that you need and then unpack it/them in the
    same directory.  This will create a subdirectory called Squeak-X.Y
    containing a hierarchy that mirrors the installed locations of the
    various files."

but no such file Squeak-X.Y was created, unless it's the directory listed above.

What must I to do to finish the install?

Michael



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Re: Squeak installation

Paul DeBruicker
>From the command line in the directory Squeak-3.10-1 run

sudo ./config.guess


after the installation is complete change to the directory that
contains the files:
Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
SqueakV39.sources


and from the command line run

squeak Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image





On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM, michael rice <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I'm on a Linux(Fedora)/PC platform.
>
> I downloaded the following to a folder I created named Squeak:
>
> Squeak-3.10-1  (a folder containing i686-pc-linux-gnu, config.guess, and INSTALL)
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
> SqueakV39.sources
>
> Not sure how to proceed from here. Docs in INSTALL file say
>
> "Fetch the archive/s that you need and then unpack it/them in the
>     same directory.  This will create a subdirectory called Squeak-X.Y
>     containing a hierarchy that mirrors the installed locations of the
>     various files."
>
> but no such file Squeak-X.Y was created, unless it's the directory listed above.
>
> What must I to do to finish the install?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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Re: Squeak installation

Paul DeBruicker
Woops.  That was wrong.  the first command should have been


sudo /bin/sh INSTALL

and not

sudo ./config.guess



The INSTALL file explains everything if you read it.  This will not
work on a 64 bit OS.





On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From the command line in the directory Squeak-3.10-1 run
>
> sudo ./config.guess
>
>
> after the installation is complete change to the directory that
> contains the files:
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
> SqueakV39.sources
>
>
> and from the command line run
>
> squeak Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM, michael rice <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm on a Linux(Fedora)/PC platform.
>>
>> I downloaded the following to a folder I created named Squeak:
>>
>> Squeak-3.10-1  (a folder containing i686-pc-linux-gnu, config.guess, and INSTALL)
>> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
>> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
>> SqueakV39.sources
>>
>> Not sure how to proceed from here. Docs in INSTALL file say
>>
>> "Fetch the archive/s that you need and then unpack it/them in the
>>     same directory.  This will create a subdirectory called Squeak-X.Y
>>     containing a hierarchy that mirrors the installed locations of the
>>     various files."
>>
>> but no such file Squeak-X.Y was created, unless it's the directory listed above.
>>
>> What must I to do to finish the install?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>>
>
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Re: Squeak installation

Michael Rice-3
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Hi Paul,

I did what you said and it came right up, but there seems to be a couple of problems.

I'm getting syntax error windows intermittently popping up when
I select methods or classes in the System Browser.

And, this is what I display for the comment for Class Integer
(displayed in octal here) in the System Browser, but instead of newlines
(\012) I'm getting boxy graphical characters (see attachment).


[michael@localhost ~]$ od -bc octal.txt
0000000 156 145 147 141 164 151 166 145 040 151 156 146 151 156 151 164
          n   e   g   a   t   i   v   e       i   n   f   i   n   i   t
0000020 171 012 011 134 134 011 151 163 040 155 157 144 165 154 157 040
          y  \n  \t   \   \  \t   i   s       m   o   d   u   l   o   
0000040 162 157 165 156 144 145 144 040 164 157 167 141 162 144 163 040
          r   o   u   n   d   e   d       t   o   w   a   r   d   s   
0000060 156 145 147 141 164 151 166 145 040 151 156 146 151 156 151 164
          n   e   g   a   t   i   v   e       i   n   f   i   n   i   t
0000100 171 012 011 161 165 157 072 040 164 162 165 156 143 141 164 145
          y  \n  \t   q   u   o   :       t   r   u   n   c   a   t   e
0000120 144 040 144 151 166 151 163 151 157 156 054 040 162 157 165 156
          d       d   i   v   i   s   i   o   n   ,       r   o   u   n
0000140 144 145 144 040 164 157 167 141 162 144 163 040 172 145 162 157
          d   e   d       t   o   w   a   r   d   s       z   e   r   o
0000160 012
         \n
0000161
[michael@localhost ~]$


Does this mean I must do an alternate install?

Michael

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] Squeak installation
To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak." <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 5:38 PM

Woops.  That was wrong.  the first command should have been


sudo /bin/sh INSTALL

and not

sudo ./config.guess



The INSTALL file explains everything if you read it.  This will not
work on a 64 bit OS.





On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic@...> wrote:

> From the command line in the directory Squeak-3.10-1 run
>
> sudo ./config.guess
>
>
> after the installation is complete change to the directory that
> contains the files:
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
> SqueakV39.sources
>
>
> and from the command line run
>
> squeak Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM, michael rice <nowgate@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm on a Linux(Fedora)/PC platform.
>>
>> I downloaded the following to a folder I created named Squeak:
>>
>> Squeak-3.10-1  (a folder containing i686-pc-linux-gnu, config.guess, and INSTALL)
>> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
>> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
>> SqueakV39.sources
>>
>> Not sure how to proceed from here. Docs in INSTALL file say
>>
>> "Fetch the archive/s that you need and then unpack it/them in the
>>     same directory.  This will create a subdirectory called Squeak-X.Y
>>     containing a hierarchy that mirrors the installed locations of the
>>     various files."
>>
>> but no such file Squeak-X.Y was created, unless it's the directory listed above.
>>
>> What must I to do to finish the install?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Beginners mailing list
>> Beginners@...
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>>
>
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Re: Squeak installation

Paul DeBruicker
I don't know how to fix what you've described or whether an alternate install would work.

Someone else may, and if so will likely chime in.


 IF there is not functionality you know you need in the versions of squeak you've downloaded you might look at installing this:

http://code.google.com/p/squeak-fedora/

 or this

http://www.pharo-project.org


to get an operational smalltalk environment. 





On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:43 PM, michael rice <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Paul,

I did what you said and it came right up, but there seems to be a couple of problems.

I'm getting syntax error windows intermittently popping up when
I select methods or classes in the System Browser.

And, this is what I display for the comment for Class Integer
(displayed in octal here) in the System Browser, but instead of newlines
(\012) I'm getting boxy graphical characters (see attachment).


[michael@localhost ~]$ od -bc octal.txt
0000000 156 145 147 141 164 151 166 145 040 151 156 146 151 156 151 164
          n   e   g   a   t   i   v   e       i   n   f   i   n   i   t
0000020 171 012 011 134 134 011 151 163 040 155 157 144 165 154 157 040
          y  \n  \t   \   \  \t   i   s       m   o   d   u   l   o   
0000040 162 157 165 156 144 145 144 040 164 157 167 141 162 144 163 040
          r   o   u   n   d   e   d       t   o   w   a   r   d   s   
0000060 156 145 147 141 164 151 166 145 040 151 156 146 151 156 151 164
          n   e   g   a   t   i   v   e       i   n   f   i   n   i   t
0000100 171 012 011 161 165 157 072 040 164 162 165 156 143 141 164 145
          y  \n  \t   q   u   o   :       t   r   u   n   c   a   t   e
0000120 144 040 144 151 166 151 163 151 157 156 054 040 162 157 165 156
          d       d   i   v   i   s   i   o   n   ,       r   o   u   n
0000140 144 145 144 040 164 157 167 141 162 144 163 040 172 145 162 157
          d   e   d       t   o   w   a   r   d   s       z   e   r   o
0000160 012
         \n
0000161
[michael@localhost ~]$


Does this mean I must do an alternate install?

Michael

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] Squeak installation
To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak." <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 5:38 PM


Woops.  That was wrong.  the first command should have been


sudo /bin/sh INSTALL

and not

sudo ./config.guess



The INSTALL file explains everything if you read it.  This will not
work on a 64 bit OS.





On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic@...> wrote:
> From the command line in the directory Squeak-3.10-1 run
>
> sudo ./config.guess
>
>
> after the installation is complete change to the directory that
> contains the files:
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
> SqueakV39.sources

>
>
> and from the command line run
>
> squeak Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM, michael rice <nowgate@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm on a Linux(Fedora)/PC platform.
>>
>> I downloaded the following to a folder I created named Squeak:
>>
>> Squeak-3.10-1  (a folder containing i686-pc-linux-gnu, config.guess, and INSTALL)
>> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.changes
>> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
>> SqueakV39.sources
>>
>> Not sure how to proceed from here. Docs in INSTALL file say
>>
>> "Fetch the archive/s that you need and then unpack it/them in the
>>     same directory.  This will create a subdirectory called Squeak-X.Y
>>     containing a hierarchy that mirrors the installed locations of the
>>     various files."
>>
>> but no such file Squeak-X.Y was created, unless it's the directory listed above.
>>
>> What must I to do to finish the install?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Beginners mailing list
>> Beginners@...
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>>
>
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Re: Squeak installation

Tobias Pape
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Hello —,

Am 2009-11-10 um 01:43 schrieb michael rice:

> And, this is what I display for the comment for Class Integer
> (displayed in octal here) in the System Browser, but instead of  
> newlines
> (\012) I'm getting boxy graphical characters (see attachment).

Squeak uses \r's a its line terminators, not  \n,
thats why you're seeing these boxes.
   I've seen these boxes a couple of times before,
but didn't bother. @core-developers: wouldn't it
be a small iteration over all class-docs to replace
the \n's by \r's?


so long,
        -Tobias

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Re: Squeak installation

Andreas.Raab
Tobias Pape wrote:
> Squeak uses \r's a its line terminators, not  \n,
> thats why you're seeing these boxes.
>   I've seen these boxes a couple of times before,
> but didn't bother. @core-developers: wouldn't it
> be a small iteration over all class-docs to replace
> the \n's by \r's?

Yes, except that the Integer class comment doesn't have any \n in it as
far as I can see (neither in the 3.10 release nor in current trunk).
Perhaps some overly smart decompression tool replaced the \r with \n?

Cheers,
   - Andreas
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