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Peter Osburg-2
Hey guys,

I already told Lukas, that we want to make a tutorial for seaside.
Mainly it should be available for students but it would also be
available at an online ressource.

So we need to know what version we should use. Right now we think about
Squeak 3.9 with Seaside 2.7 (as it is stable, though) but what about
3.10 and 2.8. Is Seaside 2.8 too buggy right now or would it be stable
enough to create a tutorial?

Thanks for your help

Peter
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Re: Stable versions

Damien Cassou-3
Hi Peter,


2007/8/22, Peter Osburg <[hidden email]>:
> So we need to know what version we should use. Right now we think about
> Squeak 3.9 with Seaside 2.7 (as it is stable, though) but what about
> 3.10 and 2.8. Is Seaside 2.8 too buggy right now or would it be stable
> enough to create a tutorial?

I would vote for Squeak 3.10+Seaside 2.8. Squeak 3.10 contains a lot
of bug fixes and not so much new features. I consider it more stable
than 3.9. Seaside 2.8 is really stable now and I guess no massive
change will happen before the release. Moreover, at the time your
tutorial will be finished, these versions will probably be the stable
ones.

If you want to add screenshots to your tutorial, I would advise you to
use a squeak-dev image with Seaside or a squeak-web image. They
contain completion, syntax highlighting, the most recent version of
softwares... More information at
http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html.

Bye

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Re: Stable versions

Peter Osburg-2
thanks for the quick answer.
i take your advise :)

i'll keep you informed about the tutorial in general :)

thx alot

Damien Cassou schrieb:

> Hi Peter,
>
>
> 2007/8/22, Peter Osburg <[hidden email]>:
>  
>> So we need to know what version we should use. Right now we think about
>> Squeak 3.9 with Seaside 2.7 (as it is stable, though) but what about
>> 3.10 and 2.8. Is Seaside 2.8 too buggy right now or would it be stable
>> enough to create a tutorial?
>>    
>
> I would vote for Squeak 3.10+Seaside 2.8. Squeak 3.10 contains a lot
> of bug fixes and not so much new features. I consider it more stable
> than 3.9. Seaside 2.8 is really stable now and I guess no massive
> change will happen before the release. Moreover, at the time your
> tutorial will be finished, these versions will probably be the stable
> ones.
>
> If you want to add screenshots to your tutorial, I would advise you to
> use a squeak-dev image with Seaside or a squeak-web image. They
> contain completion, syntax highlighting, the most recent version of
> softwares... More information at
> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html.
>
> Bye
>
>  
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Re: Stable versions

Philippe Marschall
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2007/8/22, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Peter,
>
>
> 2007/8/22, Peter Osburg <[hidden email]>:
> > So we need to know what version we should use. Right now we think about
> > Squeak 3.9 with Seaside 2.7 (as it is stable, though) but what about
> > 3.10 and 2.8. Is Seaside 2.8 too buggy right now or would it be stable
> > enough to create a tutorial?
>
> I would vote for Squeak 3.10+Seaside 2.8. Squeak 3.10 contains a lot
> of bug fixes and not so much new features. I consider it more stable
> than 3.9. Seaside 2.8 is really stable now and I guess no massive
> change will happen before the release. Moreover, at the time your
> tutorial will be finished, these versions will probably be the stable
> ones.

To me Squeak and Seaside versions are two different topics.
It really depends on how you define stable. If you define it in the
Debian way then go 2.7. But 2.7 certainly has several bugs which we
discovered during 2.8 and were not backported. 2.8 quite likely also
has some new bugs which we don't know yet about. That said it has been
running in production for quite a while now so it's deffinetly usable
for a tutorial (www.seaside.st runs on 2.8). In the recent days
several changes and fixes were introduced that have a certain
possibility of breaking stuff but everything looks good so far.

Cheers
Philippe

> If you want to add screenshots to your tutorial, I would advise you to
> use a squeak-dev image with Seaside or a squeak-web image. They
> contain completion, syntax highlighting, the most recent version of
> softwares... More information at
> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html.
>
> Bye
>
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> Damien Cassou
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