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Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

sebastianconcept
Hi guys,

tomatos ready?

I've published unlisted so only who has this link reach it.

Let me know the good, the bad and the ugly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkas6P4GRQ

Once we are comfortable enough we can publish and share, use in bogs, etc

Send me your input!

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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

Herby Vojčík
Well, just some details. There are basically just two points.

First is the cli install. It seems a bit confusing. I create project directory first, then in it I should install (but globally) an amber cli; but since it takes 1,5 minutes, I will not install it but instead I will just run it... to dispel the confusion, amber cli install command should be covered before being in a project directory. If you said you had it already installed, I haven't heard it. I think you should have said something like "I have it already installed, so when I run it (running 'amber'), you see it shows the possible commands." And go on to create project dir.

Second is the port. You should have mentioned it runs by default on port 4000, run it bare, show that it fails and say that it failed because you are developing some project of your own on that default port already, so for this example you specify the port with an additional option.

Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]>napísal/a:

Hi guys,

tomatos ready?

I've published unlisted so only who has this link reach it.

Let me know the good, the bad and the ugly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkas6P4GRQ

Once we are comfortable enough we can publish and share, use in bogs, etc

Send me your input!

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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

Manfred Kröhnert
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Hi,

the video is a nice introduction on how to use amber-cli.

In addition to what Herby said I have to comments which would make it even better I think.

For a first time user watching this screencast the introduction might be a little confusing.
Several sample projects are shown in the beginning but the switching time between them is very fast.
Maybe it would be better to only show one example at the beginning before heading to the commandline.

Another thing I noticed is that you switch of the documentation panel while browsing the code but don't explain what you are doing.
I think it is best to only make clicks that are absolutely necessary and explain what they are doing.
Everything which is done automatically in between might eventually confuse a newcomer.

Keep it up.
Your screencast initiative is highly appreciated :-)

Best,
Manfred


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi guys,

tomatos ready?

I've published unlisted so only who has this link reach it.

Let me know the good, the bad and the ugly:

Once we are comfortable enough we can publish and share, use in bogs, etc

Send me your input!

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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

Bernat Romagosa
I agree with some of the comments but I think the video is nice nevertheless. I'd publish it :)


2014-04-15 10:10 GMT+02:00 Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]>:
Hi,

the video is a nice introduction on how to use amber-cli.

In addition to what Herby said I have to comments which would make it even better I think.

For a first time user watching this screencast the introduction might be a little confusing.
Several sample projects are shown in the beginning but the switching time between them is very fast.
Maybe it would be better to only show one example at the beginning before heading to the commandline.

Another thing I noticed is that you switch of the documentation panel while browsing the code but don't explain what you are doing.
I think it is best to only make clicks that are absolutely necessary and explain what they are doing.
Everything which is done automatically in between might eventually confuse a newcomer.

Keep it up.
Your screencast initiative is highly appreciated :-)

Best,
Manfred


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi guys,

tomatos ready?

I've published unlisted so only who has this link reach it.

Let me know the good, the bad and the ugly:

Once we are comfortable enough we can publish and share, use in bogs, etc

Send me your input!

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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

Nicolas Petton
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Manfred Kröhnert writes:

> Keep it up.
> Your screencast initiative is highly appreciated :-)

Yes, that's just awesome, thank you!

>
> Best,
> Manfred
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Sebastian Sastre <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> tomatos ready?
>>
>> I've published unlisted so only who has this link reach it.
>>
>> Let me know the good, the bad and the ugly:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkas6P4GRQ
>>
>> Once we are comfortable enough we can publish and share, use in bogs, etc
>>
>> Send me your input!
>>
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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

sebastianconcept
Awesome stuff

I'll give another shot

Let's iterate this and see what comes...

sebastian

o/

> On 15/04/2014, at 06:20, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Manfred Kröhnert writes:
>
>> Keep it up.
>> Your screencast initiative is highly appreciated :-)
>
> Yes, that's just awesome, thank you!
>
>>
>> Best,
>> Manfred
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Sebastian Sastre <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> tomatos ready?
>>>
>>> I've published unlisted so only who has this link reach it.
>>>
>>> Let me know the good, the bad and the ugly:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkas6P4GRQ
>>>
>>> Once we are comfortable enough we can publish and share, use in bogs, etc
>>>
>>> Send me your input!
>>>
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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

Tim Mackinnon
Had a chance to watch it over lunch - I like having little screen casts that pique my interest. I think the promise of a fancy physics app UI - got me hooked (so having something that lures you in, is a good idea). So I like it (and noticed it also had your other demo showing up in the related section on YouTube).

If you did do it another time - I would keep the physics demo - and possibly spend a few seconds longer for it to sink in, and maybe even give a glimpse of the class behind it (possibly change a variable so a shape gets bigger for extra wow - always saying how easy it is).

Then - say "Its actually quite easy to build something like this" - you just need to install some standard web tools...

Ideally you would install Node, then Amber-Cli (and then trim the video so you don't watch them scroll by)... and then continue like you have done.

Finally - bring it back to your physics demo, because actually you don't have to spend time in files - you can code in the browser.

But overall - I think these kinds of things are working well.

What is the javascript physics library you are using...?

Tim

On 15 Apr 2014, at 12:59, sebastian <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Awesome stuff
>
> I'll give another shot
>
> Let's iterate this and see what comes...
>
> sebastian
>
> o/
>
>> On 15/04/2014, at 06:20, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Manfred Kröhnert writes:
>>
>>> Keep it up.
>>> Your screencast initiative is highly appreciated :-)
>>
>> Yes, that's just awesome, thank you!
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manfred
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Sebastian Sastre <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> tomatos ready?
>>>>
>>>> I've published unlisted so only who has this link reach it.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know the good, the bad and the ugly:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkas6P4GRQ
>>>>
>>>> Once we are comfortable enough we can publish and share, use in bogs, etc
>>>>
>>>> Send me your input!
>>>>
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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

sebastianconcept

On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Tim Mackinnon <[hidden email]> wrote:

Had a chance to watch it over lunch - I like having little screen casts that pique my interest. I think the promise of a fancy physics app UI - got me hooked (so having something that lures you in, is a good idea). So I like it (and noticed it also had your other demo showing up in the related section on YouTube).

If you did do it another time - I would keep the physics demo - and possibly spend a few seconds longer for it to sink in, and maybe even give a glimpse of the class behind it (possibly change a variable so a shape gets bigger for extra wow - always saying how easy it is).

Then - say "Its actually quite easy to build something like this" - you just need to install some standard web tools...

Ideally you would install Node, then Amber-Cli (and then trim the video so you don't watch them scroll by)... and then continue like you have done.

Finally - bring it back to your physics demo, because actually you don't have to spend time in files - you can code in the browser.

But overall - I think these kinds of things are working well.

What is the javascript physics library you are using...?

Tim

I’m really excited to do it once more time!

Awesome Tim. Thanks for sharing such good descriptions on how to get lured.

The changing values live is a great idea. I might try hacking from an inspector or something. 

Showing the installs will feel right. The install progress problem might be solved by editing with a fast forward. Is extra work but might be worth. I’ll give it a shot.

Regarding to your last question and for extra luring … :)

Maybe is interesting to mention and leave references to that demo’s code in github?




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Re: Start New Amber Project | Screencast review

Tim Mackinnon
Yes - a link to a github project would be perfect.

Tim

On 15 Apr 2014, at 15:22, sebastian <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Tim Mackinnon <[hidden email]> wrote:

Had a chance to watch it over lunch - I like having little screen casts that pique my interest. I think the promise of a fancy physics app UI - got me hooked (so having something that lures you in, is a good idea). So I like it (and noticed it also had your other demo showing up in the related section on YouTube).

If you did do it another time - I would keep the physics demo - and possibly spend a few seconds longer for it to sink in, and maybe even give a glimpse of the class behind it (possibly change a variable so a shape gets bigger for extra wow - always saying how easy it is).

Then - say "Its actually quite easy to build something like this" - you just need to install some standard web tools...

Ideally you would install Node, then Amber-Cli (and then trim the video so you don't watch them scroll by)... and then continue like you have done.

Finally - bring it back to your physics demo, because actually you don't have to spend time in files - you can code in the browser.

But overall - I think these kinds of things are working well.

What is the javascript physics library you are using...?

Tim

I’m really excited to do it once more time!

Awesome Tim. Thanks for sharing such good descriptions on how to get lured.

The changing values live is a great idea. I might try hacking from an inspector or something. 

Showing the installs will feel right. The install progress problem might be solved by editing with a fast forward. Is extra work but might be worth. I’ll give it a shot.

Regarding to your last question and for extra luring … :)

Maybe is interesting to mention and leave references to that demo’s code in github?





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