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Statistics package in Pharo?

Julien Delplanque
Hi everyone,

Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation of
statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?

I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.

Thanks in advance,

Julien

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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

Sebastian Tleye-2
The only package that I know that has statistical tools is NumericalMethods, you can install it by going to tools->Configuraiton Browser->NumericalMethods.

Check if it has what you need

2015-03-03 11:40 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>:
Hi everyone,

Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation of
statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?

I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.

Thanks in advance,

Julien




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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

Julien Delplanque
Wow lots of classes, I'll browse the package and tell you if that's what
I need :)

Thanks.

On 03/03/15 11:46, Sebastian Tleye wrote:

> The only package that I know that has statistical tools is
> NumericalMethods, you can install it by going to tools->Configuraiton
> Browser->NumericalMethods.
>
> Check if it has what you need
>
> 2015-03-03 11:40 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation of
>> statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?
>>
>> I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>


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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

abergel
Hi Julien,

Indeed, having a nice statistical package is missing in Pharo. The numerical methods is a nice start.
If things are missing, we should implement them.

Cheers,
Alexandre

> On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Wow lots of classes, I'll browse the package and tell you if that's what
> I need :)
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 03/03/15 11:46, Sebastian Tleye wrote:
>> The only package that I know that has statistical tools is
>> NumericalMethods, you can install it by going to tools->Configuraiton
>> Browser->NumericalMethods.
>>
>> Check if it has what you need
>>
>> 2015-03-03 11:40 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation of
>>> statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?
>>>
>>> I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Julien
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

SergeStinckwich
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Hi Julien, there is no KS-tests in this package. This is also something I'm looking for :-)
NumericalMethods package is now part of SciSmalltalk distribution: 

Join us if you want to help build statistical tools in Pharo: 

Regards

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On 3 mars 2015, at 11:52, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wow lots of classes, I'll browse the package and tell you if that's what
I need :)

Thanks.

On 03/03/15 11:46, Sebastian Tleye wrote:
The only package that I know that has statistical tools is
NumericalMethods, you can install it by going to tools->Configuraiton
Browser->NumericalMethods.

Check if it has what you need

2015-03-03 11:40 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>:

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation of
statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?

I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.

Thanks in advance,

Julien





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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

Julien Delplanque
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Doesn't look like there is what I'm looking for.

Maybe I'll implement things I need if I have time but probably not a
complete package for statistics. :)

On 03/03/15 12:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Hi Julien,
>
> Indeed, having a nice statistical package is missing in Pharo. The numerical methods is a nice start.
> If things are missing, we should implement them.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Wow lots of classes, I'll browse the package and tell you if that's what
>> I need :)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 03/03/15 11:46, Sebastian Tleye wrote:
>>> The only package that I know that has statistical tools is
>>> NumericalMethods, you can install it by going to tools->Configuraiton
>>> Browser->NumericalMethods.
>>>
>>> Check if it has what you need
>>>
>>> 2015-03-03 11:40 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation of
>>>> statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?
>>>>
>>>> I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Julien
>>>>
>>>>
>>


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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

Julien Delplanque
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On 03/03/15 12:54, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
> Hi Julien, there is no KS-tests in this package. This is also something I'm looking for :-)
> NumericalMethods package is now part of SciSmalltalk distribution:
> https://github.com/SergeStinckwich/SciSmalltalk
Hi!
Nice I'll look at that.
> Join us if you want to help build statistical tools in Pharo:
> http://groups.google.com/group/scismalltalk
I'm interested since I have to implement things for a project, if it's
possible to integrate them in your package it would be nice.

Regards,

Julien

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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

SergeStinckwich
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This is not really difficult to implement a khi2 or ks-test. I'm doing that with my 1st year university student in Python. I will try if I found sone time in Pharo.


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> On 3 mars 2015, at 12:46, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Julien,
>
> Indeed, having a nice statistical package is missing in Pharo. The numerical methods is a nice start.
> If things are missing, we should implement them.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Wow lots of classes, I'll browse the package and tell you if that's what
>> I need :)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>> On 03/03/15 11:46, Sebastian Tleye wrote:
>>> The only package that I know that has statistical tools is
>>> NumericalMethods, you can install it by going to tools->Configuraiton
>>> Browser->NumericalMethods.
>>>
>>> Check if it has what you need
>>>
>>> 2015-03-03 11:40 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation of
>>>> statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?
>>>>
>>>> I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Julien
>
> --
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> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

Julien Delplanque
On 03/03/15 13:11, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
> This is not really difficult to implement a khi2 or ks-test. I'm doing that with my 1st year university student in Python. I will try if I found sone time in Pharo.
I know it's not complicated, I had to implement KS test in python for
another project (but I don't think you are one of my professor :p).

I will do it soon but I'm still noob in smalltalk so I don't know where
to implement this and how: class messages or object messages for example?

Julien

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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

kilon.alios
I use class method for generic actions that are not to be performed per instance of data. But if I have multiple instances of data then instance methods make more sense.

Some classes offer both instance and class methods doing the same process. So in the end its up to you there is no golden rule. For example you may have a class method that return the instance of the class which you can then use to trigger additional instance methods. Sky is the limit ;)

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 03/03/15 13:11, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
> This is not really difficult to implement a khi2 or ks-test. I'm doing that with my 1st year university student in Python. I will try if I found sone time in Pharo.
I know it's not complicated, I had to implement KS test in python for
another project (but I don't think you are one of my professor :p).

I will do it soon but I'm still noob in smalltalk so I don't know where
to implement this and how: class messages or object messages for example?

Julien


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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

SergeStinckwich
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Start to write tests !


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> On 3 mars 2015, at 13:22, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 03/03/15 13:11, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
>> This is not really difficult to implement a khi2 or ks-test. I'm doing that with my 1st year university student in Python. I will try if I found sone time in Pharo.
> I know it's not complicated, I had to implement KS test in python for
> another project (but I don't think you are one of my professor :p).
>
> I will do it soon but I'm still noob in smalltalk so I don't know where
> to implement this and how: class messages or object messages for example?
>
> Julien
>

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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

abergel
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It does not really matter. Start to write your stat test and we will go over it.
This is --highly-- important to have such tests.

Alexandre



> Le 3 mars 2015 à 07:22, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> a écrit :
>
>> On 03/03/15 13:11, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
>> This is not really difficult to implement a khi2 or ks-test. I'm doing that with my 1st year university student in Python. I will try if I found sone time in Pharo.
> I know it's not complicated, I had to implement KS test in python for
> another project (but I don't think you are one of my professor :p).
>
> I will do it soon but I'm still noob in smalltalk so I don't know where
> to implement this and how: class messages or object messages for example?
>
> Julien
>

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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

Blondeau Vincent
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Hi Julien,

If you are doing some statistics, I am pretty sure that you use R.
There is a connector to R software implemented in Pharo. You can use it if some methods are not implemented or too complex to do it by yourself.
The link is here: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~VincentBlondeau/RProjectConnector/

Don't hesitate to ask if you need some help on it.

Vincent

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Doesn't look like there is what I'm looking for.

Maybe I'll implement things I need if I have time but probably not a complete package for statistics. :)

On 03/03/15 12:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Hi Julien,
>
> Indeed, having a nice statistical package is missing in Pharo. The numerical methods is a nice start.
> If things are missing, we should implement them.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Wow lots of classes, I'll browse the package and tell you if that's
>> what I need :)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 03/03/15 11:46, Sebastian Tleye wrote:
>>> The only package that I know that has statistical tools is
>>> NumericalMethods, you can install it by going to
>>> tools->Configuraiton
>>> Browser->NumericalMethods.
>>>
>>> Check if it has what you need
>>>
>>> 2015-03-03 11:40 GMT+01:00 Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a package that contains implementation
>>>> of statistics tests like Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, Khi-2 test, etc?
>>>>
>>>> I did fast research in Smalltalkhub but didn't found anything.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Julien
>>>>
>>>>
>>




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Re: Statistics package in Pharo?

wernerk
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hi Julien,
you can find chisquare-test, f-test, t-test in numericalmethods
werner


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wernerk
and you can find the doku here:
https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/NumericalMethods/releases
werner

On 03/03/2015 06:03 PM, Werner Kassens wrote:
> hi Julien,
> you can find chisquare-test, f-test, t-test in numericalmethods
> werner
>
>
>

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Julien Delplanque
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On 03/03/15 18:03, Werner Kassens wrote:
> hi Julien,
Hi!
> you can find chisquare-test, f-test, t-test in numericalmethods
> werner
Oh, thanks I'll check this out!
> and you can find the doku here:
> https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/NumericalMethods/releases
> werner
>