Status of Rome?

> Hello guys,
>
> i seen there are some recent activity with Rome in Pharo,
> but i found that things are now scattered over a different repositories,
> and its hard to find out, what version is latest and which one i could use.
>
> I found that the latest things is in a SqS/PharoTaskForces/Rome,
> which is a merge of all Rome-XXX packages into a single one.
> Is this most recent thing you are working on?
>
> Actually, all i need is just a reference canvas,
> but it would be cool if i could run some working code & examples. :)
>
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> Stef
>
> On May 22, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> i seen there are some recent activity with Rome in Pharo,
>> but i found that things are now scattered over a different repositories,
>> and its hard to find out, what version is latest and which one i could use.
>>
>> I found that the latest things is in a SqS/PharoTaskForces/Rome,
>> which is a merge of all Rome-XXX packages into a single one.
>> Is this most recent thing you are working on?
>>
>> Actually, all i need is just a reference canvas,
>> but it would be cool if i could run some working code & examples. :)
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>
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> On 22 May 2010 11:05, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> in Athens in squeaksource.
>> We will flush all the other repositories and only keep this one.
>> We will put the old files probably there too.
>>
>> Why that?
>> Because the code was full of half done class, broken methods....
>> Tweak copied and pasted code from Squeak
>>
>
> Yes, it requires some cleanup/reorganization.
> So, SqS/Athens is the latest & current state of art?
>
>> Stef
>>
>> On May 22, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>>> Hello guys,
>>>
>>> i seen there are some recent activity with Rome in Pharo,
>>> but i found that things are now scattered over a different repositories,
>>> and its hard to find out, what version is latest and which one i could use.
>>>
>>> I found that the latest things is in a SqS/PharoTaskForces/Rome,
>>> which is a merge of all Rome-XXX packages into a single one.
>>> Is this most recent thing you are working on?
>>>
>>> Actually, all i need is just a reference canvas,
>>> but it would be cool if i could run some working code & examples. :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>
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> Good.
>
> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>
> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>
> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU, and it
> does the rest.
>
> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it contains
> a contours
> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>
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> That looks cool. I am looking forward seeing that stuff in action :-)
>
> Lukas
>
> 2010/5/22 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>> Good.
>>
>> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>>
>> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
>> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>>
>> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU, and it
>> does the rest.
>>
>> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it contains
>> a contours
>> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>
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> On May 22, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>
>> That looks cool. I am looking forward seeing that stuff in action :-)
>>
>> Lukas
>>
>> 2010/5/22 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>>> Good.
>>>
>>> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>>>
>>> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
>>> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>>>
>>> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU, and it
>>> does the rest.
>>>
>>> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it contains
>>> a contours
>>> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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> I making a calls to OpenGL, using NativeBoost's OpenGL bindings.
> All stuff is coded in smalltalk, so sure thing its does things in pharo :)
>
>>
>> On May 22, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>>> That looks cool. I am looking forward seeing that stuff in action :-)
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>> 2010/5/22 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Good.
>>>>
>>>> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>>>>
>>>> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
>>>> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>>>>
>>>> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU, and it
>>>> does the rest.
>>>>
>>>> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it contains
>>>> a contours
>>>> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> On 22 May 2010 18:34, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> w
> rote:
>> me too.
>> Now igor do you plan to do it in pharo or by calling opengl?
>>
>
> Err.. what you mean by pharo?
> I making a calls to OpenGL, using NativeBoost's OpenGL bindings.
> All stuff is coded in smalltalk, so sure thing its does things in  
> pharo :)
>
>>
>> On May 22, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>>> That looks cool. I am looking forward seeing that stuff in  
>>> action :-)
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>> 2010/5/22 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Good.
>>>>
>>>> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>>>>
>>>> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
>>>> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>>>>
>>>> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU,  
>>>> and it
>>>> does the rest.
>>>>
>>>> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it  
>>>> contains
>>>> a contours
>>>> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> I making a calls to OpenGL, using NativeBoost's OpenGL bindings.
>> All stuff is coded in smalltalk, so sure thing its does things in pharo :)
>>
>>>
>>> On May 22, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>
>>>> That looks cool. I am looking forward seeing that stuff in action :-)
>>>>
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
>>>> 2010/5/22 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>>>>> Good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
>>>>> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>>>>>
>>>>> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU, and it
>>>>> does the rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it contains
>>>>> a contours
>>>>> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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> Cheers,
> Henry
>
> Den 22. mai 2010 kl. 17.42 skrev Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>
>> On 22 May 2010 18:34, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> me too.
>>> Now igor do you plan to do it in pharo or by calling opengl?
>>>
>>
>> Err.. what you mean by pharo?
>> I making a calls to OpenGL, using NativeBoost's OpenGL bindings.
>> All stuff is coded in smalltalk, so sure thing its does things in pharo :)
>>
>>>
>>> On May 22, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>
>>>> That looks cool. I am looking forward seeing that stuff in action :-)
>>>>
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
>>>> 2010/5/22 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
>>>>> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>>>>>
>>>>> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU, and it
>>>>> does the rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it contains
>>>>> a contours
>>>>> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>>>
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>>>>
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> On 22 May 2010 18:58, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Err.. what you mean by pharo?
>>
>> Well I was wondering if you were doing the same as juan....
>> Juan showed me better rendering written in SMalltalk code than calling openGL/cairo...
>> for antialiasing so I'm eager to see morphic30
>>
>
> well, you can do sophisticated AA by implementing shader programs.
> It will run on GPU, means veeeery fast.
> And if you would ask me, what i prefer - quality or speed, i will
> definitely take speed.
>
> Because, when you need to render thousands of glyphs on a screen
> (which is a usual scenario
> for text-based editors/viewers), you have to sacrifice the quality anyways.
> Otherwise, wait for next 10 years till hardware will be able to render
> it withot crawling like a hog.

>
> Actually, i would like to cooperate with Juan about this. I think that
> AA techniques (as well as many others),
> could be moved to GPU, freeing CPU from this time consuming task.
>
>>> I making a calls to OpenGL, using NativeBoost's OpenGL bindings.
>>> All stuff is coded in smalltalk, so sure thing its does things in pharo :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 22, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That looks cool. I am looking forward seeing that stuff in action :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/5/22 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>> Good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am now trying to implement a vector(truetype) font rendering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just finished a little GPU fragment shader snippet, which renders a
>>>>>> quad bezier curve, with antialiasing included :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You supplying 3 points, which defines a quadratic curve to GPU, and it
>>>>>> does the rest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a basis for smooth true-type font rendering, since it contains
>>>>>> a contours
>>>>>> consisting from line segments or quadratic bezier segments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>
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