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John Chludzinski

Swazoo v. Kom

I'm using Seaside to develop a suite of web apps for mobile devices; I'm also a newbie to Seaside. Is there a reason to prefer Swazoo v. Kom. I will need to use both Comet and Jabber, so maybe this tips it in Kom's favor? ---John

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Philippe Marschall

Re: Swazoo v. Kom

2009/5/18 John Chludzinski <[hidden email]>:
> I'm using Seaside to develop a suite of web apps for mobile devices; I'm
> also a newbie to Seaside. Is there a reason to prefer Swazoo v. Kom.

Swazoo is seeing more active development currently and runs on several
dialects, Kom runs only on Squeak. Swazoo does not support Comet but
Kom does. Kom receives more testing in combination with Seaside.

Cheers
Philippe
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Janko Mivšek

Re: Swazoo v. Kom

Philippe Marschall pravi:

> John Chludzinski:

>> I'm using Seaside to develop a suite of web apps for mobile devices; I'm
>> also a newbie to Seaside. Is there a reason to prefer Swazoo v. Kom.

> Swazoo is seeing more active development currently and runs on several
> dialects, Kom runs only on Squeak. Swazoo does not support Comet but
> Kom does. Kom receives more testing in combination with Seaside.

Swazoo actually runs Comet on VW Seaside, thanks to a work done recently
by Lautaro Fernandez, and Aida/Web uses Swazoo for its Comet support too.

So, I think it won't be hard to extend current Swazoo Seaside adapter to
support Comet as well.

Best regards
Janko
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Lautaro Fernández

Re: Swazoo v. Kom

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2009/5/18 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>

2009/5/18 John Chludzinski <[hidden email]>:

> I'm using Seaside to develop a suite of web apps for mobile devices; I'm
> also a newbie to Seaside. Is there a reason to prefer Swazoo v. Kom.

Swazoo is seeing more active development currently and runs on several
dialects, Kom runs only on Squeak. Swazoo does not support Comet

Sorry, but Swazoo supports HTTP Streaming, which allows you to implement Comet. We know this because we had to switch from Opentalk (which does not support streaming very well) to Swazoo 2.1 (later to 2.2 beta 1) to make our Comet implementation for Seaside+Swazoo work.

@John Chludzinsk: We don't know how better/worse is Kom rather than Swazoo, but Comet does work in Swazoo (see Meteoroid :] ). Beside that, are you using Squeak? VisualWorks? (if it's the last one, you can see how we use it with Swazoo)

Bye,
Lautaro

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Kom does. Kom receives more testing in combination with Seaside.

Cheers
Philippe
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John Chludzinski

Re: Swazoo v. Kom

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> 2009/5/18 John Chludzinski <john.chludzinski at gmail.com>:
> > I'm using Seaside to develop a suite of web apps for mobile devices; I'm
> > also a newbie to Seaside. Is there a reason to prefer Swazoo v. Kom.
>
> Swazoo is seeing more active development currently and runs on several
> dialects, Kom runs only on Squeak. Swazoo does not support Comet

>Sorry, but Swazoo supports HTTP Streaming, which allows you to implement
>Comet. We know this because we had to switch from Opentalk (which does not
>support streaming very well) to Swazoo 2.1 (later to 2.2 beta 1) to make our
>Comet implementation for Seaside+Swazoo work.
>
>@John Chludzinski: We don't know how better/worse is Kom rather than Swazoo,
>but Comet does work in Swazoo (see Meteoroid :] ). Beside that, are you
>using Squeak? VisualWorks? (if it's the last one, you can see how we use it
>with Swazoo)

I'm using Squeak for development. This is a fixed point (Squeak); all
our development is in Squeak. ---John
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Philippe Marschall

Re: Swazoo v. Kom

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2009/5/18 Lautaro Fernández <[hidden email]>:

> 2009/5/18 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>
>>
>> 2009/5/18 John Chludzinski <[hidden email]>:
>> > I'm using Seaside to develop a suite of web apps for mobile devices;
>> > I'm
>> > also a newbie to Seaside. Is there a reason to prefer Swazoo v. Kom.
>>
>> Swazoo is seeing more active development currently and runs on several
>> dialects, Kom runs only on Squeak. Swazoo does not support Comet
>
> Sorry, but Swazoo supports HTTP Streaming, which allows you to implement
> Comet. We know this because we had to switch from Opentalk (which does not
> support streaming very well) to Swazoo 2.1 (later to 2.2 beta 1) to make our
> Comet implementation for Seaside+Swazoo work.

I mean the Seaside implementation (CT*) not comet in general.

Cheers
Philippe
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