Why did the colors change in syntax highlighting for 10500? Especially, there is no more color-based discrimination between a class name, a local variable, a parameter, or an instance variable. I think it is a regression. -- Simon _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Simon Denier <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Especially, there is no more color-based discrimination between a class name, a local variable, a parameter, or an instance variable. I think it is a regression. I think these are Lukas Renggli's color. We have to choose what colors we want. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Can someone attach both screenshots or explain me how to test both ?
Thank you very much. Mariano On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:
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The syntax highlighting should be made a preference with our shiny new
preference framework. I don't want any other coloring, I am using that color scheme for over 15 years now. Power to the people! Lukas 2009/12/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > Can someone attach both screenshots or explain me how to test both ? > > Thank you very much. > > Mariano > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Simon Denier <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> > Especially, there is no more color-based discrimination between a class >> > name, a local variable, a parameter, or an instance variable. I think it is >> > a regression. >> >> I think these are Lukas Renggli's color. We have to choose what colors we >> want. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> popular by not having them." James Iry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
you are getting old :)
Now distinguish class from variables is nice. > The syntax highlighting should be made a preference with our shiny new > preference framework. > > I don't want any other coloring, I am using that color scheme for over > 15 years now. > > Power to the people! > > Lukas _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Hi,
There are two things that I like very much in the previous color scheme. 1. the local variables and the parameters were displayed with gray and instance variables and classes were displayed with black. This had the nice advantage of distinguishing both the classes and the instance variables in one glance. You could argue that this introduces a new visual variable, but the choice of the coloring was actually quite intuitive and with basically no cost: - all variables are shown with shades of gray (thus requiring only one mental mapping), and - the darkness is used to show the "prominence" of a variable: the larger the scope the darker the variable 2. The other nice thing in the previous coloring is the coloring of matching parentheses. This is quite nice when using blocks for scripting. Cheers, Doru On 14 Dec 2009, at 20:11, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > you are getting old :) > > Now distinguish class from variables is nice. > >> The syntax highlighting should be made a preference with our shiny >> new >> preference framework. >> >> I don't want any other coloring, I am using that color scheme for >> over >> 15 years now. >> >> Power to the people! >> >> Lukas > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Em 14/12/2009 17:32, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> escreveu: Hi, There are two things that I like very much in the previous color scheme. 1. the local variables and the parameters were displayed with gray and instance variables and classes were displayed with black. This had the nice advantage of distinguishing both the classes and the instance variables in one glance. You could argue that this introduces a new visual variable, but the choice of the coloring was actually quite intuitive and with basically no cost: - all variables are shown with shades of gray (thus requiring only one mental mapping), and - the darkness is used to show the "prominence" of a variable: the larger the scope the darker the variable 2. The other nice thing in the previous coloring is the coloring of matching parentheses. This is quite nice when using blocks for scripting. Cheers, Doru _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 14 déc. 2009, at 19:50, Lukas Renggli wrote: > The syntax highlighting should be made a preference with our shiny new > preference framework. > > I don't want any other coloring, I am using that color scheme for over > 15 years now. > > Power to the people! Yep, let's do some preferences for that. How do we start? :) > > Lukas > > 2009/12/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >> Can someone attach both screenshots or explain me how to test both ? >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> Mariano >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Simon Denier <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>>> Especially, there is no more color-based discrimination between a class >>>> name, a local variable, a parameter, or an instance variable. I think it is >>>> a regression. >>> >>> I think these are Lukas Renggli's color. We have to choose what colors we >>> want. >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Simon _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Maybe creating a issue and cc alain :) That would be awesome :) I remember doing this in VisualAge at my work. Each people could have their own likes. You could also change the "background" colors of the panel. So, for example you could put black background with letters in white, etc and that configuration seemed to be very cool to rest your sight (sorry if I cannot express myself in english).
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> Maybe creating a issue and cc alain :)
> > That would be awesome :) I remember doing this in VisualAge at my work. > Each people could have their own likes. > You could also change the "background" colors of the panel. So, for example > you could put black background with letters in white, etc and that > configuration seemed to be very cool to rest your sight (sorry if I cannot > express myself in english). The problem is that the text editor does not really support background color. I have an extension that does it, but it looks ugly. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( I have an extension that does it, but it looks ugly. What looks ugly ? the code of the text editor ? Why looks ugly ? because of the font's color ? Any screenshot? Cheers, Mariano Lukas _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
1. The CharacterScanner skips parts with white-spaces. I couldn't
figure out how to get a continuously filled area. 2. The order of the text annotations in the text is more or less random, so you if you have overlapping styles things get unpredictable. 3. The cursor is drawn first, then the text with the annotations. So if you have a background color it disappears behind the rectangle. Nothing insolvable, but very hard to fix without changing the complete system. Lukas 2009/12/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> > Maybe creating a issue and cc alain :) >> > >> > That would be awesome :) I remember doing this in VisualAge at my >> > work. >> > Each people could have their own likes. >> > You could also change the "background" colors of the panel. So, for >> > example >> > you could put black background with letters in white, etc and that >> > configuration seemed to be very cool to rest your sight (sorry if I >> > cannot >> > express myself in english). >> >> The problem is that the text editor does not really support background >> color. > > :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( > >> >> I have an extension that does it, but it looks ugly. >> > > What looks ugly ? the code of the text editor ? Why looks ugly ? because of > the font's color ? Any screenshot? > > Cheers, > > Mariano > >> >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Screen shot 2009-12-14 at 23.10.56 .png (9K) Download Attachment |
2009/12/14 Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> 1. The CharacterScanner skips parts with white-spaces. I couldn't hahahahahha. OK....now I understand why the "ugly" :( Maybe someone can give you a hint on this. What a pity :( Cheers, Mariano
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Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit :
> > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Simon Denier <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > > On 14 déc. 2009, at 19:50, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > The syntax highlighting should be made a preference with our > shiny new > > preference framework. > > > > I don't want any other coloring, I am using that color scheme > for over > > 15 years now. > > > > Power to the people! > > Yep, let's do some preferences for that. How do we start? :) > > > Maybe creating a issue and cc alain :) I guess we can do that when the core will not contain any Preferences reference and my package comments reviewed and the settings I've coded also documented and a documentation written I will be happy to help. :) For now, the core still contains a lot of Preferences references :( Alain _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Alain Plantec <[hidden email]> wrote: Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : hahahahhaha. It seems you have a lot of things to do Alain ;) I agree those tasks are more important than this. For now, we should have just create an issue so that not forget about it. Thank you very much for all what you are doing. It is very useful. For now, the core still contains a lot of Preferences references :( _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit :
> ... > we should have just create an issue so that not forget about it. Issue 1611 <http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1611>: The syntax highlighting should be made a preference Alain _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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