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Garth Holland

Hello, I'm new to this list.



Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.

The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'

Any suggestions on why this happened?

Thank you, Steve

OS: windows 7 64 bit.

Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0 

=============================================

phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben
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Re: The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

Camillo Bruni-3
It seems like you missed some code, can you try the following?

Gofer new
        smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser';
        configuration;
        loadStable.

I am not sure if your code ever worked in Pharo 2.0.

On 2013-09-06, at 17:16, "S. Garth Holland" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hello, I'm new to this list.
>
>
> I tried one of the examples in http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorial 
>
> Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.
>
> The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'
>
> Any suggestions on why this happened?
>
> Thank you, Steve
>
> OS: windows 7 64 bit.
>
> Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0
>
> =============================================
>
> phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben


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Stéphane Ducasse
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<base href="x-msg://8567/">
On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:16 PM, S. Garth Holland <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hello, I'm new to this list.

Hello and welcome

Let us know if you get more questions. 

Stef



Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.

The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'

Any suggestions on why this happened?

Thank you, Steve

OS: windows 7 64 bit.

Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0 

=============================================

phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben

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Re: The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

Garth Holland
Camillo, you're correct, the slide should contain "configuration;". When added, the load is successful, thanks.

Now I'm stuck on trying to load Xpath for slide 74

data := 'http://picasaweb.google.com/data/feed/api/all?q=puppy' asUrl retrieveContents. 
doc := XMLDOMParser parse: data. 
path := XPath for: 'entry/content/@src'. 
urls := path in: doc. url := urls anyOne. 

Debugger shows

'Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfXPath'

Thanks again, Steve




From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:40:50 +0200
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?


On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:16 PM, S. Garth Holland <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hello, I'm new to this list.

Hello and welcome

Let us know if you get more questions. 

Stef



Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.

The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'

Any suggestions on why this happened?

Thank you, Steve

OS: windows 7 64 bit.

Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0 

=============================================

phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben

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Re: The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

Garth Holland
Got it...this worked.

Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XPath';
package: 'XPath';
load



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To: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 18:46:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

Camillo, you're correct, the slide should contain "configuration;". When added, the load is successful, thanks.

Now I'm stuck on trying to load Xpath for slide 74

data := 'http://picasaweb.google.com/data/feed/api/all?q=puppy' asUrl retrieveContents. 
doc := XMLDOMParser parse: data. 
path := XPath for: 'entry/content/@src'. 
urls := path in: doc. url := urls anyOne. 

Debugger shows

'Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfXPath'

Thanks again, Steve




From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:40:50 +0200
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?


On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:16 PM, S. Garth Holland <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hello, I'm new to this list.

Hello and welcome

Let us know if you get more questions. 

Stef



Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.

The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'

Any suggestions on why this happened?

Thank you, Steve

OS: windows 7 64 bit.

Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0 

=============================================

phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben

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Stéphane Ducasse
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<base href="x-msg://8702/">you can load the package directly
We should add a configuration which is indeed missing.

Gofer new 
smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XPath';
package: 'XPath'; 
load
Now I suggest you to have a look at the book chapter on Gofer in deepInPharo because this is explained.
You can also check the ConfigurationBrowser because it gets all the configurations that people published
and sort according if there are made to load in your system.
There will be much more in the future and they will be tested.


Stef




Camillo, you're correct, the slide should contain "configuration;". When added, the load is successful, thanks.

Now I'm stuck on trying to load Xpath for slide 74

data := 'http://picasaweb.google.com/data/feed/api/all?q=puppy' asUrl retrieveContents. 
doc := XMLDOMParser parse: data. 
path := XPath for: 'entry/content/@src'. 
urls := path in: doc. url := urls anyOne. 

Debugger shows

'Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfXPath'

Thanks again, Steve




From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:40:50 +0200
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?


On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:16 PM, S. Garth Holland <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hello, I'm new to this list.

Hello and welcome

Let us know if you get more questions. 

Stef



Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.

The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'

Any suggestions on why this happened?

Thank you, Steve

OS: windows 7 64 bit.

Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0 

=============================================

phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben

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hernanmd
I have added last night a ConfigurationOfXPath. You should see it in the Configuration Browser now.
Cheers,

Hernán


2013/9/7 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
you can load the package directly
We should add a configuration which is indeed missing.

Gofer new 
smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XPath';
package: 'XPath'; 
load
Now I suggest you to have a look at the book chapter on Gofer in deepInPharo because this is explained.
You can also check the ConfigurationBrowser because it gets all the configurations that people published
and sort according if there are made to load in your system.
There will be much more in the future and they will be tested.


Stef




Camillo, you're correct, the slide should contain "configuration;". When added, the load is successful, thanks.

Now I'm stuck on trying to load Xpath for slide 74

data := 'http://picasaweb.google.com/data/feed/api/all?q=puppy' asUrl retrieveContents. 
doc := XMLDOMParser parse: data. 
path := XPath for: 'entry/content/@src'. 
urls := path in: doc. url := urls anyOne. 

Debugger shows

'Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfXPath'

Thanks again, Steve




From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:40:50 +0200
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?


On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:16 PM, S. Garth Holland <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hello, I'm new to this list.

Hello and welcome

Let us know if you get more questions. 

Stef



Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.

The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'

Any suggestions on why this happened?

Thank you, Steve

OS: windows 7 64 bit.

Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0 

=============================================

phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben


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Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks!
We need more configruationOf :)


On Sep 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have added last night a ConfigurationOfXPath. You should see it in the Configuration Browser now.
Cheers,

Hernán


2013/9/7 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
you can load the package directly
We should add a configuration which is indeed missing.

Gofer new 
smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XPath';
package: 'XPath'; 
load
Now I suggest you to have a look at the book chapter on Gofer in deepInPharo because this is explained.
You can also check the ConfigurationBrowser because it gets all the configurations that people published
and sort according if there are made to load in your system.
There will be much more in the future and they will be tested.


Stef




Camillo, you're correct, the slide should contain "configuration;". When added, the load is successful, thanks.

Now I'm stuck on trying to load Xpath for slide 74

data := 'http://picasaweb.google.com/data/feed/api/all?q=puppy' asUrl retrieveContents. 
doc := XMLDOMParser parse: data. 
path := XPath for: 'entry/content/@src'. 
urls := path in: doc. url := urls anyOne. 

Debugger shows

'Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfXPath'

Thanks again, Steve




From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:40:50 +0200
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?


On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:16 PM, S. Garth Holland <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hello, I'm new to this list.

Hello and welcome

Let us know if you get more questions. 

Stef



Slide 70. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'XMLParser'; loadStable.

The debugger pops up with the message 'Could not find a valid ConfigurationReference'

Any suggestions on why this happened?

Thank you, Steve

OS: windows 7 64 bit.

Using path: C:\Dev\Smalltalk\Pharo\Pharo2.0-win\Pharo2.0 

=============================================

phil at highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magritte 3 >Twitter Bootstrap > > + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk, Phriak, Voyage) > + STOMP > > + Amber if needed > > I've been test driving the whole stack for a while and even if there are > some quirks, it looks like good enough for what I want to achieve. > > Now, my question: what is the Pharo advantage you would put forward vs > other choices (like LAMP, Java, Rails etc). > > I am aware of what those could be but I am more looking for what makes you > tick when using the technology (like: "it is fun to work with", "no more > Java for me, due to ...", "speeds dev time by ...", "not> NSA-backdoor-enabled") > > This is the kind of thing we should have in stock for helping the > Consortium members get buy in from people giving a yes on budgets. > > Thanks in advance for your help! (BTW, I am going to use this on monday > morning for defending our position on a significant project). > > Phil > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language * 72-75 easy web interaction * 80 serializing continuations / exception context (this is massively impressive!) * 81 powerful breakpoints [1]http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/pharo-tutorial-at-ecooptutorialcheers -ben