The Weekly Squeak Summary No. 17: Jan 13 - Mar 22, 2008

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Re: The Weekly Squeak Summary No. 17: Jan 13 - Mar 22, 2008

stephane ducasse
Come on...
This is one email every month full of cool information. Do you rate  
all the emails with no information that we receive everyday?
Please news team continue! I would love also to get news from  
VisualWorks too condensed that way.
I also think that not showing that Smalltalk is a living community is  
a mistake for Seasiders.
I really value the Web team and news because in a world with so much  
information having a condensed
summary is simply great.

Stef

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RE: The Weekly Squeak Summary No. 17: Jan 13 - Mar 22, 2008

Ramon Leon-5
> Come on...
> This is one email every month full of cool information. Do
> you rate all the emails with no information that we receive everyday?
> Please news team continue! I would love also to get news from
> VisualWorks too condensed that way.
> I also think that not showing that Smalltalk is a living
> community is a mistake for Seasiders.
> I really value the Web team and news because in a world with
> so much information having a condensed summary is simply great.
>
> Stef

+1, I like the summaries as well, we're too small a community to ignore each
others accomplishments.

Ramon Leon
http://onsmalltalk.com

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Re: The Weekly Squeak Summary No. 17: Jan 13 - Mar 22, 2008

Rajeev Lochan
+1

Hi,
I joined Seaside community a year ago. Then I knew only about Smalltalk and Seaside. Due to various posts on Seaside Mailing Lists by senior members, I came across other applications/frameworks etc. We do come across information in lot many ways like Googling etc, but sometimes we dont have time to go through each and everything.

The posts in Mailing Lists are usually Content-rich and narrow down our spectrum. I am very grateful for joining Seaside Mailing List.

I was really shocked to see reactions of some of the senior members of Seaside Lists (no offense please) over Weekly Squeak Issue. Though its subject is Weekly, but the news-group themselves are busy and send the mail once in a month or so.

So, getting a content-rich mail once a month shouldn't bother anyones inbox.

Just my humble opinion,

Seaside Rocks !!!

Regards,
Rajeev,
Caartz.com


On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Ramon Leon <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Come on...
> This is one email every month full of cool information. Do
> you rate all the emails with no information that we receive everyday?
> Please news team continue! I would love also to get news from
> VisualWorks too condensed that way.
> I also think that not showing that Smalltalk is a living
> community is a mistake for Seasiders.
> I really value the Web team and news because in a world with
> so much information having a condensed summary is simply great.
>
> Stef

+1, I like the summaries as well, we're too small a community to ignore each
others accomplishments.

Ramon Leon
http://onsmalltalk.com

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Re: The Weekly Squeak Summary No. 17: Jan 13 - Mar 22, 2008

Philippe Marschall
In reply to this post by Sebastian Sastre-2
2008/3/28, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]>:

> > That was not intended to be a quality rating about about your work,
>  > indeed I find the weekly Squeak of high quality, there is no need to
>  > be offended. The reason I wrote this mail to the list instead of the
>  > news team directly is that we can have a discussion in public and
>  > everyone who is interested can post his opinion.
>  >
>
> Then please meditate about using a more intelligent way to generate controversy.
>
>
>  > What made me write this mail is that to me:
>  > - Seaside is not about promoting Smalltalk
>  > - Seaside is not about the Squeak "environment" (EToys, Shopie,
>  > Croquet, Scratch, OLPC, SqueakLand, research project X, ...)
>  > to me Seaside is a web framework for Smalltalk who runs on
>  > Squeak. Period.
>  >
>
> Is good to see you clarifying you are speaking for yourself because that's very different of the "we" word you lightly used and everybody read in your original reply to the news team.
>
>
>  > Who ever is interested in the Weekly Squeak can read it directly or
>  > via RSS feed. If we have a weekly Squeak on this list, shouldn't we
>  > have a weekly Cincom Smalltalk, Dolphin Smalltalk, Gemstone Smalltalk
>  > and GNU Smalltalk as well? If we had all these would that still be
>  > appropriate? What's the reasoning for not posting on the Magma and
>  > Exupery lists as well?
>  >
>
> If they are publishing Seaside cases or platform improvments which directly benefit Seaside projects you think is not appropriate? If so you better delete the mail from your inbox because I bet lot of people here would be interested.
>
>
>  > Or to make an other example. Would you find it appropriate if the Sun
>  > news team would post the weekly Java in the mailinglist of Tapestry?
>  >
>  > Cheers
>  > Philippe
>  >
>
> Is amazingly sad you are trying to convince people by comparing Sun Microsystems to Squeak. And you made it public. You are an important member of this community and to see this is for me a real pity. A real public shoot in the foot who helps nobody.
>

I fail to see how comparing the work some people do in their free time
with that of a company is anything but a compliment.

Cheers
Philippe
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Re: The Weekly Squeak Summary No. 17: Jan 13 - Mar 22, 2008

cedreek
Is it me or squeak-lists are electric these days ;-)

This was probably a bit harsh (I think Philip is very straight in his
emails)... but we got the answer...  It seems seaside community wants
to keep the weekly squeak summary and this is the main point.

Cheers,

Cédrick

As a side note, I find Philippe is actually a very nice guy. The fact
is, in ESUG Praga, I just couldn't put a name on his face and I was
really surprised *he* was Philipe, the straight guy on the list...
Beeing to diplomat is also sometimes boring and unproductive because
we occur problems fearing to say what we really think...
I hadn't considerer this question until it arose. Then my first
thought was it is not necessary (as I subscribe several lists). Then,
Rajeev post finish to convince me this summary is a good thing, and we
need to keep it here.  My 2 cents...

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