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The joy's of deployment

Maarten Mostert

Hi James Arden and all.

 

So I am almost ready to push out my updated program and back to runtime packagers parcels, baseimages ressource hacker etc.

 

The previous times I ended up getting my application (after many trial and errors) through the basic rtp procedure, but as allways I'll first try to get a more "intelligent ?" scripting thing.

 

First question:

 

If I try to load and use BuilderBundle as indicated in STFU:  http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?entry=3472705758

 

It gives immediated errors when doing anything with the Build tool.  Is it still compatible with 7.8 ?

 

=================================================================

 

Second question.

 

On page 21-3 of the App dev guide it is mentioned that:

 

"When a deployed image starts up, it looks in the startup directory for

a parcel configuration file with the filename imagename.cnf, where

imagename is the same as the image file’s name. If such a file exists,

the image loads the parcel files named in the file. Parcel file names

Application Delivery should be listed one per line, and are resolved with respect to the

working directory, or the parcel path if one is specified in the

deployed image."

 

If I try to improve Arden's example: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/arden/blogView?showComments=true&title=Simple+Deployment&entry=3475306833#3475306833

 

Making a runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im -cnf C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.cnf  -doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

 

And the runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl

 

This does not work, the -d switch is not recognised.

 

I understood from the documentation that normally I should be able to do something like:

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im

 

The runtime.cnf should be searched for and if it containes something like:

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl

-doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

I would expect that to work. But it doesn't either ?

 

As a naive person I would expect a renamed vm like visual.exe to  solitaire.exe to look for solitaire.im looking for solitaire.cnf making it possible to create a clean Windows shortcut defining working directory and executable name.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

 

Maarten,

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


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Re: The joy's of deployment

jarober
I have a version that works with 7.8, but I have not published it outside of work yet.  I'll try to do that next week.

On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

Hi James Arden and all.

 

So I am almost ready to push out my updated program and back to runtime packagers parcels, baseimages ressource hacker etc.

 

The previous times I ended up getting my application (after many trial and errors) through the basic rtp procedure, but as allways I'll first try to get a more "intelligent ?" scripting thing.

 

First question:

 

If I try to load and use BuilderBundle as indicated in STFU:  http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?entry=3472705758

 

It gives immediated errors when doing anything with the Build tool.  Is it still compatible with 7.8 ?

 

=================================================================

 

Second question.

 

On page 21-3 of the App dev guide it is mentioned that:

 

"When a deployed image starts up, it looks in the startup directory for
a parcel configuration file with the filename imagename.cnf, where
imagename is the same as the image file’s name. If such a file exists,
the image loads the parcel files named in the file. Parcel file names
Application Delivery should be listed one per line, and are resolved with respect to the
working directory, or the parcel path if one is specified in the
deployed image."

 

 

Making a runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im -cnf C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.cnf  -doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

 

And the runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl

 

This does not work, the -d switch is not recognised.

 

I understood from the documentation that normally I should be able to do something like:

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im

 

The runtime.cnf should be searched for and if it containes something like:

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl
-doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

I would expect that to work. But it doesn't either ?

 

As a naive person I would expect a renamed vm like visual.exe to  solitaire.exe to look for solitaire.im looking for solitaire.cnf making it possible to create a clean Windows shortcut defining working directory and executable name.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

 

Maarten,

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Re: The joy's of deployment

Mark Pirogovsky-3
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Maarten and All,

Stripping an image is akin to the amputating your own limbs while using them to amputate ( sorry for the recursion here) ...

In the past we found  that stripping sometimes introduces some unintended side effects that are very challenging to debug. 

So try to "close" you application instead. 

There are ways to make closed image and single file EXE ( Windows) which for all intents and purposes will look and behave exactly like the stripped one...
Your image size may be couple of MB bigger but in today day and age  1 or two MBs do not make any noticeable difference.

Happy holidays to ALL.

--Mark Pirogovsky



[hidden email] wrote:

Hi James Arden and all.

 

So I am almost ready to push out my updated program and back to runtime packagers parcels, baseimages ressource hacker etc.

 

The previous times I ended up getting my application (after many trial and errors) through the basic rtp procedure, but as allways I'll first try to get a more "intelligent ?" scripting thing.

 

First question:

 

If I try to load and use BuilderBundle as indicated in STFU:  http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?entry=3472705758

 

It gives immediated errors when doing anything with the Build tool.  Is it still compatible with 7.8 ?

 

=================================================================

 

Second question.

 

 

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Re: The joy's of deployment // bugs ?

Maarten Mostert
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Thanks James, that wuld be Cool

 

No matter how I turn things it seems that  runtime.cnf is totally unsupported in 7.8 ???

 

Anything that looks like:

 

C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe  C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im -cnf C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.cnf


Just doesn't work !!!!

 

In the meantime I managed to get to the first step of the striping process leaving me with this on the second step.

 

2011-12-24_0855_001.png

 

The vm gets blocked !

 

If anyone can give me any hint how to bring this further a copy is here:

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5848367/stakepoint.im


 

 

 

"James Robertson" <[hidden email]> said:

I have a version that works with 7.8, but I have not published it outside of work yet.  I'll try to do that next week.

On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

Hi James Arden and all.

 

So I am almost ready to push out my updated program and back to runtime packagers parcels, baseimages ressource hacker etc.

 

The previous times I ended up getting my application (after many trial and errors) through the basic rtp procedure, but as allways I'll first try to get a more "intelligent ?" scripting thing.

 

First question:

 

If I try to load and use BuilderBundle as indicated in STFU:  http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?entry=3472705758

 

It gives immediated errors when doing anything with the Build tool.  Is it still compatible with 7.8 ?

 

=================================================================

 

Second question.

 

On page 21-3 of the App dev guide it is mentioned that:

 

"When a deployed image starts up, it looks in the startup directory for
a parcel configuration file with the filename imagename.cnf, where
imagename is the same as the image file’s name. If such a file exists,
the image loads the parcel files named in the file. Parcel file names
Application Delivery should be listed one per line, and are resolved with respect to the
working directory, or the parcel path if one is specified in the
deployed image."

 

 

Making a runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im -cnf C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.cnf  -doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

 

And the runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl

 

This does not work, the -d switch is not recognised.

 

I understood from the documentation that normally I should be able to do something like:

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im

 

The runtime.cnf should be searched for and if it containes something like:

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl
-doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

I would expect that to work. But it doesn't either ?

 

As a naive person I would expect a renamed vm like visual.exe to  solitaire.exe to look for solitaire.im looking for solitaire.cnf making it possible to create a clean Windows shortcut defining working directory and executable name.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

 

Maarten,

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Re: The joy's of deployment

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Hi Maarten;

 

I will try to recreate my deployment setup in VW7.8 next week (I am back in the office on Tuesday the 2nd), and see if there are any issues. 

 

Regards

 

               Arden

 

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Subject: [vwnc] The joy's of deployment

 

Hi James Arden and all.

 

So I am almost ready to push out my updated program and back to runtime packagers parcels, baseimages ressource hacker etc.

 

The previous times I ended up getting my application (after many trial and errors) through the basic rtp procedure, but as allways I'll first try to get a more "intelligent ?" scripting thing.

 

First question:

 

If I try to load and use BuilderBundle as indicated in STFU:  http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?entry=3472705758

 

It gives immediated errors when doing anything with the Build tool.  Is it still compatible with 7.8 ?

 

=================================================================

 

Second question.

 

On page 21-3 of the App dev guide it is mentioned that:

 

"When a deployed image starts up, it looks in the startup directory for

a parcel configuration file with the filename imagename.cnf, where

imagename is the same as the image file’s name. If such a file exists,

the image loads the parcel files named in the file. Parcel file names

Application Delivery should be listed one per line, and are resolved with respect to the

working directory, or the parcel path if one is specified in the

deployed image."

 

If I try to improve Arden's example: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/arden/blogView?showComments=true&title=Simple+Deployment&entry=3475306833#3475306833

 

Making a runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im -cnf C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.cnf  -doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

 

And the runtime.cnf file containing something like:

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl

 

This does not work, the -d switch is not recognised.

 

I understood from the documentation that normally I should be able to do something like:

 

@echo off

 

@Start C:\vw7.8nc\bin\win\visual.exe C:\vw7.8nc\image\runtime.im

 

The runtime.cnf should be searched for and if it containes something like:

 

-pcl C:\vw7.8nc\image\SpiderSolitaire.pcl

-doit 'SpiderSolitaireUI open'

 

I would expect that to work. But it doesn't either ?

 

As a naive person I would expect a renamed vm like visual.exe to  solitaire.exe to look for solitaire.im looking for solitaire.cnf making it possible to create a clean Windows shortcut defining working directory and executable name.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

 

Maarten,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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