The results are in!
Locked
 
|
Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my expectations. At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast. Richard |
|
|
Hi Richard,
I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic messages in the future. This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). You’re not asking a question about Pharo, nor answering a question about Pharo. So I personally find all these emails off-topic and uninteresting. I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such off-topic messages. And this only chases off this list people really interested about the main topic of the list (like me). Maybe this shows this competition / PR campaign you’re running needs another channel? I know you don’t agree, but I invite you to read here the **purpose** of this list, just for respect to people subscribed to it: Thanks for your comprehension, Guille
|
Administrator
|
I've found this topic both interesting and upsetting at times. I do understand the desire to address Pharo issues without getting sidetracked by other topics. However, this particular thread started as a Pharo user's success story. Didn't it? Isn't Pharo the implementation used for the contest? Are all success stories to be banned as a consequence, intended or otherwise? On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 11:24 Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
|
|
|
In reply to this post by Guillermo Polito
So this forum is only for Pharo newcomers who have questions? Seems rather
limiting. When I join other language forums, I look for information about the language I'm investigating as a newcomer. This can include the language's capabilities, limitations, real-world usage, new tools, philosophical basis, and so on. General information across a broad spectrum of topics. And, yes, even trivia and factoids that I might find interesting. I appreciate that you don't find this interesting, but other forum visitors may. If the Pharo users forum wants to, it could do something as draconian as StackOverflow does: put a tight leash on submitted questions and boot out everybody who doesn't comply. This is one reason I don't go to StackOverflow very often — they aren't welcoming to people who just want to learn general things. I've told my readers that the Pharo users forum is welcoming. Please don't make a liar out of me. Guillermo Polito wrote > Hi Richard, > > I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic > messages in the future. > > This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse any > kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). > You’re not asking a question about Pharo, nor answering a question about > Pharo. > So I personally find all these emails off-topic and uninteresting. > > I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such off-topic > messages. > And this only chases off this list people really interested about the main > topic of the list (like me). > > Maybe this shows this competition / PR campaign you’re running needs > another channel? > I know you don’t agree, but I invite you to read here the **purpose** of > this list, just for respect to people subscribed to it: > https://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org > <https://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org> > > Thanks for your comprehension, > Guille > >> El 8 feb 2020, a las 19:12, Richard Kenneth Eng < > horrido.hobbies@ > > escribió: >> >> Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ >> <https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ> >> >> I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my >> expectations. >> >> At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to >> promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast. >> >> Richard -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
|
|
Hi Richard, I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic messages in the future. This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). You’re not asking a question about Pharo, nor answering a question about Pharo. So I personally find all these emails off-topic and uninteresting. I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such off-topic messages. And this only chases off this list people really interested about the main topic of the list (like me). Maybe this shows this competition / PR campaign you’re running needs another channel? I know you don’t agree, but I invite you to read here the **purpose** of this list, just for respect to people subscribed to it: Thanks for your comprehension, Guille
|
Re: The results are in!
|
|
I guess I have to re-ask again since nobody answered my question from
this week... Where can we post Pharo questions/remarks/thoughts/you-might-want-to-have-a-look-at-this-cool-idea/whatever (or anything that could be of any interest to Pharoers) ? MAYBE we need another list... This is getting ridiculous! The guy spends energy, time, effort and is able to gather 13K in prizes and puts Pharo to the forefront with this cool contest in schools, makes a lot of youngsters learn & use Pharo for their projects, puts up a website, makes videos, writes blog posts, PROMOTES Pharo and he gets slapped for posting here ?!?! WTF ??? Where should he post? Where should I post ? On 2020-02-08 17:35, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic > messages in the future. > -- ----------------- Benoît St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth GitHub: bstjean Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) |
|
|
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 05:50:18PM -0500, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users wrote:
> MAYBE we need another list... Maybe Richard just needs to adjust the style of his mails... > This is getting ridiculous! The guy spends energy, time, effort and is able > to gather 13K in prizes and puts Pharo to the forefront with this cool > contest in schools, makes a lot of youngsters learn & use Pharo for their > projects, puts up a website, makes videos, writes blog posts, PROMOTES Pharo > and he gets slapped for posting here ?!?! WTF ??? Like if the subject of Richard's mail is "Pharo success story part 3: blah blah" and his opening paragraph is descriptive, similar to what you wrote above, I'd read the mail and watch the video. As it is, his mail is content-free and comes across purely as self-promotion. Pierce |
|
|
Self-promotion??? I generally dislike inserting myself personally into
Smalltalk advocacy. My campaign is all about Smalltalk; I'm just the vehicle. If you're referring to my comment "at the risk of sounding immodest," I am rightfully proud of my video. It does a damn good job of promoting Pharo. Beyond that, however, I don't ever want this campaign to be about me. So what self-promotion are you referring to? As for "content-free," the video is good content, at least, from the perspective of marketing. Of course, you wouldn't think it was valid content if you don't believe in marketing Pharo, a sentiment that I think is unfortunately shared by many in this forum. Pierce Ng-3 wrote > On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 05:50:18PM -0500, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users > wrote: >> MAYBE we need another list... > > Maybe Richard just needs to adjust the style of his mails... > >> This is getting ridiculous! The guy spends energy, time, effort and is >> able >> to gather 13K in prizes and puts Pharo to the forefront with this cool >> contest in schools, makes a lot of youngsters learn & use Pharo for their >> projects, puts up a website, makes videos, writes blog posts, PROMOTES >> Pharo >> and he gets slapped for posting here ?!?! WTF ??? > > Like if the subject of Richard's mail is "Pharo success story part 3: > blah blah" and his opening paragraph is descriptive, similar to what you > wrote above, I'd read the mail and watch the video. As it is, his mail > is content-free and comes across purely as self-promotion. > > Pierce -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
|
|
In reply to this post by horrido
so 8. 2. 2020 v 23:33 odesílatel horrido <[hidden email]> napsal: So this forum is only for Pharo newcomers who have questions? Seems rather We do not need to make a liar out of you. See your old e-mails: So, is Pharo being used to fight Ebola? Not exactly, but who cares? I'm trying to change people's perception. I'm trying to *move* them. If I have to exaggerate, I will do so. Has everybody heard of Smalltalk? Of course not. And it doesn't matter. I'm taking /literary licence/. As a writer and a marketer, I am allowed to do this. -- Pavel Guillermo Polito wrote |
|
|
In reply to this post by Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list
so 8. 2. 2020 v 23:58 odesílatel Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users <[hidden email]> napsal: I guess I have to re-ask again since nobody answered my question from You need to see the whole story. This guy with a messianic syndrome started his aggressive campaign by spitting on every other programming language and he is constantly spamming the social media by void articles that are often full of lies while showing whole community in a very bad light of fanatic fools. He (alone) came with the idea of the competition and started to demand money for it. Then he started to blame anyone who didn't want to provide money to him. He is constantly rejecting any critique and feedback so do not be surprised that otherwise very friendly people are losing their patience. -- Pavel
|
|
|
In reply to this post by Pavel Krivanek-3
Exaggeration is not a lie, especially in the context of /marketing/. We've
all seen marketing campaigns on television, in social media and magazines. They all contain exaggerations and half-truths. You don't seem to understand what marketing is all about. Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote > so 8. 2. 2020 v 23:33 odesílatel horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > napsal: > >> So this forum is only for Pharo newcomers who have questions? Seems >> rather >> limiting. >> >> When I join other language forums, I look for information about the >> language >> I'm investigating as a newcomer. This can include the language's >> capabilities, limitations, real-world usage, new tools, philosophical >> basis, >> and so on. General information across a broad spectrum of topics. >> >> And, yes, even trivia and factoids that I might find interesting. I >> appreciate that you don't find this interesting, but other forum visitors >> may. >> >> If the Pharo users forum wants to, it could do something as draconian as >> StackOverflow does: put a tight leash on submitted questions and boot out >> everybody who doesn't comply. This is one reason I don't go to >> StackOverflow >> very often — they aren't welcoming to people who just want to learn >> general >> things. >> >> I've told my readers that the Pharo users forum is welcoming. Please >> don't >> make a liar out of me. >> > > We do not need to make a liar out of you. See your old e-mails: > > > > > > > > *So, is Pharo being used to fight Ebola? Not exactly, but who cares? > I'mtrying to change people's perception. I'm trying to *move* them. If I > haveto exaggerate, I will do so.Has everybody heard of Smalltalk? Of > course > not. And it doesn't matter. I'mtaking /literary licence/. As a writer and > a > marketer, I am allowed to dothis.* > > -- Pavel > > Guillermo Polito wrote >> > Hi Richard, >> > >> > I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic >> > messages in the future. >> > >> > This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse >> any >> > kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). >> > You’re not asking a question about Pharo, nor answering a question >> about >> > Pharo. >> > So I personally find all these emails off-topic and uninteresting. >> > >> > I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such >> off-topic >> > messages. >> > And this only chases off this list people really interested about the >> main >> > topic of the list (like me). >> > >> > Maybe this shows this competition / PR campaign you’re running needs >> > another channel? >> > I know you don’t agree, but I invite you to read here the **purpose** >> of >> > this list, just for respect to people subscribed to it: >> > https://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org >> > < >> https://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org> >> > >> > Thanks for your comprehension, >> > Guille >> > >> >> El 8 feb 2020, a las 19:12, Richard Kenneth Eng < >> >> > horrido.hobbies@ >> >> > > escribió: >> >> >> >> Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ >> >> <https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ> >> >> >> >> I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my >> >> expectations. >> >> >> >> At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to >> >> promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast. >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
|
|
In reply to this post by Pavel Krivanek-3
Now, who's telling lies?
I have never "demanded" money for the competition. I've asked for donations through Kickstarter and GoFundMe. I didn't demand anything from LabWare; they were so impressed with my campaign, they offered to support it. Your characterization of me is inaccurate and unfair and downright insulting. I really don't understand where your vitriol is coming from. I have never "blamed" anybody for not donating. People are free to donate or not; I understand that and it's fine. Your characterization of my social media posts as "void articles" is also very insulting. As I said in another post, you don't seem to understand what marketing is all about. To you, anything that isn't technical information nor source code is void and vacuous. I don't "reject" feedback. I listen to it and if it makes sense, I act on it. Do all your feedback make sense? If I don't believe it makes sense, am I "rejecting" it? You seem to think that I should accept your feedback without question. Why should I? Who are you? You say I've been "spitting on every other programming language." It's fair game to compare Smalltalk with other languages. Am I "spitting" when I point out the weaknesses of other languages? Why are those languages off limits? Your use of loaded terms like "messianic" and "demand" and "blame" and "reject" shows that you are strongly biased against me. I don't know what I did to deserve your disdain, but I won't stand for it. I have my dignity and my grace. You, on the other hand, have no honour. And just for the record, many people appreciate my effort and support it. Does it please everybody? Of course not, nor should it. So if some of you are impatient with me, what am I supposed to do with that? Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote > so 8. 2. 2020 v 23:58 odesílatel Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users < > pharo-users@.pharo >> napsal: > >> I guess I have to re-ask again since nobody answered my question from >> this week... >> >> Where can we post Pharo >> questions/remarks/thoughts/you-might-want-to-have-a-look-at-this-cool-idea/whatever >> >> (or anything that could be of any interest to Pharoers) ? >> >> MAYBE we need another list... >> >> This is getting ridiculous! The guy spends energy, time, effort and is >> able to gather 13K in prizes and puts Pharo to the forefront with this >> cool contest in schools, makes a lot of youngsters learn & use Pharo for >> their projects, puts up a website, makes videos, writes blog posts, >> PROMOTES Pharo and he gets slapped for posting here ?!?! WTF ??? >> > > You need to see the whole story. This guy with a messianic syndrome > started > his aggressive campaign by spitting on every other programming language > and > he is constantly spamming the social media by void articles that are often > full of lies while showing whole community in a very bad light of fanatic > fools. He (alone) came with the idea of the competition and started to > demand money for it. Then he started to blame anyone who didn't want to > provide money to him. He is constantly rejecting any critique and feedback > so do not be surprised that otherwise very friendly people are losing > their patience. > > -- Pavel > > >> >> Where should he post? Where should I post ? >> >> On 2020-02-08 17:35, Guillermo Polito wrote: >> > Hi Richard, >> > >> > I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic >> > messages in the future. >> > >> -- >> ----------------- >> Benoît St-Jean >> Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean >> Twitter: @BenLeChialeux >> Pinterest: benoitstjean >> Instagram: Chef_Benito >> IRC: lamneth >> GitHub: bstjean >> Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com >> "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) >> >> >> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
|
|
In reply to this post by Guillermo Polito
Hi Guille,
Full disclosure, I've spent the past 6 months using my discretionary hobby time programming the infrastructure for this competition using Pharo, so my viewpoint may be biased. On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 03:25, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic messages in the future. > > This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). This list is not just for asking questions. There are plenty of [ANN] posts advertising new libraries and blogs articles. Following completion of the competition, the MIT licensed code repository will be announced here. Hopefully it may provide an engaging exercise for Pharo teachers to their with their students. > I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such off-topic messages. Unfortunately the original post was quite bare and failed to show how it was Pharo-topical. So I can understand how it triggered you. I hope the additional background info provided here alleviates some of your concern about it. > I know you don’t agree, but I invite you to read here the **purpose** of this list, just for respect to people subscribed to it: > https://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org The purpose I see there seems fairly generic... "This is the general mailing list for users of Pharo." The competition is programmed in Pharo and Pharo is promoted later in the video with screens like...   But that promotion is not the main thing. The main thing is simply that this is-A competition programmed using Pharo, and as such this list seems reasonable a reasonable place discuss it. Although the "smalltalk" title of the video is not ideal, that was the name of the competition when it was originally going to use VisualWorks, and so it carried over. A final thing to consider is how welcomed the dozens of competing students may feel if they are watching this list and see their Pharo based competition spurned by the community. So with this additional perspective, may one post a week be allowed to share the progress of the competition? cheers -ben > > Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ > > I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my expectations. > > At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast. > > Richard > > |
|
|
Thanks, Ben.
> Although the "smalltalk" title of the video is not ideal, that was the > name of the competition when it was originally going to use VisualWorks, > and so it carried over. Not only that, but if you look at jrmpc.ca, it uses the word "Smalltalk" all over the place. The sponsors include LabWare (who doesn't use Pharo), Simberon (who doesn't use Pharo), and TSUG (Toronto *Smalltalk* User Group). It's "Smalltalk" everywhere! And that's fine because Pharo is a Smalltalk. Ben Coman wrote > Hi Guille, > > Full disclosure, I've spent the past 6 months using my discretionary hobby > time > programming the infrastructure for this competition using Pharo, so my > viewpoint may be biased. > > On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 03:25, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopolito@ > > > wrote: >> >> Hi Richard, >> >> I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic > messages in the future. >> >> This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse > any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). > > This list is not just for asking questions. There are plenty of [ANN] > posts advertising new libraries > and blogs articles. Following completion of the competition, the MIT > licensed code repository will be announced here. > Hopefully it may provide an engaging exercise for Pharo teachers to their > with their students. > > >> I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such off-topic > messages. > > Unfortunately the original post was quite bare and failed to show how it > was Pharo-topical. > So I can understand how it triggered you. I hope the additional > background > info provided here alleviates some of your concern about it. > > >> I know you don’t agree, but I invite you to read here the **purpose** of > this list, just for respect to people subscribed to it: >> https://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org > > The purpose I see there seems fairly generic... "This is the general > mailing list for users of Pharo." > > The competition is programmed in Pharo and Pharo is promoted later in the > video with screens like... > > [image: image.png] > [image: image.png] > > But that promotion is not the main thing. The main thing is simply that > this is-A competition programmed using Pharo, > and as such this list seems reasonable a reasonable place discuss it. > Although the "smalltalk" title of the video is not ideal, > that was the name of the competition when it was originally going to use > VisualWorks, and so it carried over. > > A final thing to consider is how welcomed the dozens of competing students > may feel if they are watching this list > and see their Pharo based competition spurned by the community. > > So with this additional perspective, may one post a week be allowed to > share the progress of the competition? > > cheers -ben > > >> El 8 feb 2020, a las 19:12, Richard Kenneth Eng < > horrido.hobbies@ > > > escribió: >> >> Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ >> >> I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my >> expectations. >> >> At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to > promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast. >> >> Richard >> >> > > > image.png (28K) > <http://forum.world.st/attachment/5111441/0/image.png> > image.png (91K) > <http://forum.world.st/attachment/5111441/1/image.png> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
|
|
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 08:01, horrido <[hidden email]> wrote:
That is what it is. Can't change it. The sponsors are being very generous. And that's fine because Pharo is a Smalltalk. But pushing that line here may generate further controversy around the competition that will not help anyones cause. There are other forums you can do that. Here lets focus on the "Pharo" aspects of the competition. :) cheers -ben |
|
|
In reply to this post by Ben Coman
Hi Ben,
I know, and I don’t mind announcements from time to time. But announcements are generally marked with [ANN], and are kind of self explanatory. The mail Richard sent is, and I’m sorry to be harsh, spam.
I’ll quote his original email:
I particularly, who hasn’t followed the competition, am completely lost with this email. With the risk of sounding harsh, again, but trying to give some feedback Richard can work on: - The subject does not imply it is an announcement, nor what the results are related to or how they got there - For those that are not following this competition: what is this round 1? Are there many of them? What is this about? are there many teams? - There is no single link to the competition website, what this is about, whoever contributed to it... - Clicking on the link gives a video with a title that is as ambiguous as this email :( - I check the description of the video: what is there in the video? not clear. How will it appear in a youtube search in the future? At least it seems there are links to the website... Yet, Really? do I have to watch the video before I can know if this is interesting for me or not? :P Happily these points could be addressed in the future.
Can the posts have better quality? :/ Still, I’d feel more confortable with an alternative, such as using discord. What about having a dedicated #jmrpc channel on discord where people could ask questions too? What about twitter? I havent seen this on twitter. Is it there? Now, I already spent too much on this :) Time to get back to something productive. Cheers, Guille
|
|
|
I shall endeavour to make my posts more meaningful, starting with [ANN]. My
bad. Guillermo Polito wrote > Hi Ben, > >> El 9 feb 2020, a las 21:01, Ben Coman < > btc@ > > escribió: >> >> > This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse >> any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). >> >> This list is not just for asking questions. There are plenty of [ANN] >> posts advertising new libraries >> and blogs articles. Following completion of the competition, the MIT >> licensed code repository will be announced here. >> Hopefully it may provide an engaging exercise for Pharo teachers to their >> with their students. > > I know, and I don’t mind announcements from time to time. > But announcements are generally marked with [ANN], and are kind of self > explanatory. > The mail Richard sent is, and I’m sorry to be harsh, spam. > >> > I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such >> off-topic messages. >> >> Unfortunately the original post was quite bare and failed to show how it >> was Pharo-topical. >> So I can understand how it triggered you. I hope the additional >> background info provided here alleviates some of your concern about it. > > Maybe. Maybe Richard could work his emails a bit more? > > I’ll quote his original email: > >> > El 8 feb 2020, a las 19:12, Richard Kenneth Eng < > horrido.hobbies@ > <mailto: > horrido.hobbies@ > >> escribió: >> > >> > Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ >> <https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ> >> > >> > I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my >> expectations. >> > >> > At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to >> promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast. >> > >> > Richard > > I particularly, who hasn’t followed the competition, am completely lost > with this email. > With the risk of sounding harsh, again, but trying to give some feedback > Richard can work on: > - The subject does not imply it is an announcement, nor what the results > are related to or how they got there > - For those that are not following this competition: what is this round 1? > Are there many of them? What is this about? are there many teams? > - There is no single link to the competition website, what this is about, > whoever contributed to it... > - Clicking on the link gives a video with a title that is as ambiguous as > this email :( > - I check the description of the video: what is there in the video? not > clear. How will it appear in a youtube search in the future? > At least it seems there are links to the website... > Yet, Really? do I have to watch the video before I can know if this is > interesting for me or not? :P > > Happily these points could be addressed in the future. > >> So with this additional perspective, may one post a week be allowed to >> share the progress of the competition? > > Can the posts have better quality? :/ > > Still, I’d feel more confortable with an alternative, such as using > discord. > What about having a dedicated #jmrpc channel on discord where people could > ask questions too? > > What about twitter? I havent seen this on twitter. Is it there? > > Now, I already spent too much on this :) > Time to get back to something productive. > > Cheers, > Guille -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
«
Return to Pharo Smalltalk Users
|
1 view|%1 views
| Free forum by Nabble | Edit this page |