These beautiful tooltips

And there are useful A11Y (Accessibility combos down the page)

http://clrs.cc/a11y/

Phil

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:38 PM, stepharong <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:52:54 +0100, Hilaire <[hidden email]> wrote:

I would like to help in both accessibility and implementation detail of
the theme. In the other hand I fell we are in such flux with the future
UI in Pharo. What are the grounds we can stand on regarding UI?

Improve now.
Think later.
Bloc/Brick will not be ready before some versions of Pharo.

Hilaire

Le 31/01/2017 à 11:21, [hidden email] a
écrit :

Well there is no subclass of GLMBrickColorThemer so dark themes get
hardcoded light colors in places for example.

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On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:20:28 +0100, Hilaire <[hidden email]> wrote:

good but will we find these people?

>
> Hilaire
>
> Le 03/02/2017 à 12:25, Serge Stinckwich a écrit :
>> I like the idea of a UI quality team and more dedicated teams should
>> be built maybe on documentation, CI, etc ...
>> I guess for an UI quality team, the first step is to propose a process
>> on how to assess the quality of a release.
>


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Damned you are inferring a lot on my writing, but I understand now.

In my previous post I had no argument against the *new* debugger, nor I
wrote its interface degraded. I just made an absolute remark regarding
lack of information on non obvious function, in the debugger in my
example, which apply to both P3 and P5. Don't make it personal, it is
not. Btw in the past I wrote I see no reason to complain about the top
positioning of the buttons, you see...

As you wrote about comparing Pharo3 and Pharo5 debugger tooltips, now I
think the situation improve because there is a least shortcut mentioned
in the tips. But still a description of each button is in my opinion
more than needed.


Le 04/02/2017 à 08:34, Tudor Girba a écrit :
> Could you point me to where the interface has degraded and how the
> tooltips decrease value?
>

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Will Serge, Dimitris willing to join in with me?

Hilaire

Le 04/02/2017 à 18:26, stepharong a écrit :
>> How does it sound?
>
> good but will we find these people?

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Le 04/02/2017 à 20:46, Hilaire a écrit :
> Will Serge, Dimitris willing to join in with me?
>
> Hilaire
>
> Le 04/02/2017 à 18:26, stepharong a écrit :
>>> How does it sound?
>>
>> good but will we find these people?
>

If you create a mailing list I would be interested to subscribe.

I would like to help to improve everything in the category "first
impression count" but I don't know if I will have the time in the next
month.

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I guess we can find better qualified people about UI quality than me ;-)
Doru or Johan are examples.

Envoyé de mon iPhone

May be more naive eyes will more likely see glitches


Le 04/02/2017 à 22:45,
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> I guess we can find better qualified people about UI quality than me ;-)
> Doru or Johan are examples.

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Thanks for the vote of confidence :-) but sadly due to my move I won’t be able to spend much time on Pharo in the near future :-(

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> On 04 Feb 2017, at 18:45, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> I guess we can find better qualified people about UI quality than me ;-)
> Doru or Johan are examples.
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone

On 04/02/2017 18:26, stepharong wrote:
> It would be nice to have a palette class with some nice defaults.
> Cyril could you package what you have in MDL out of MDL so that we can
> add it to Pharo?
>
> Stef
>

I extracted it here:

https://github.com/DuneSt/MaterialColors

In the future I would like to add some utilities methods for example to
choose the font color from the background color following MaterialDesign
recommendations. Like that we would not have to care about the
readability of a font color if the background changes. (Following
https://material.io/guidelines/style/color.html#color-color-schemes)


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