Traits and PHP

Hi,

it seems that the PHP people think about including Traits in the next PHP major release: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=126875515019687&w=2

Laurent Laffont

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On 18 Mar 2010, at 14:19, laurent laffont wrote:

> Hi,
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> it seems that the PHP people think about including Traits in the next PHP major release: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=126875515019687&w=2
Indeed, we do ;)
But there is still no agreement on the language design and the functionality...

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They have been discussing that for a while already. Back in January  
2008 I was discussing with Stefan about the proposal for PHP.
Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript.

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Alexandre


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I would probably not try to convince the whole community. We all know  
that it does not work.
Just focus on the smartest people, which might not be the one that  
shout the most :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre

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> Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript.

How do traits fit into a prototype model? Has anybody written about that?

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check the ecoop paper of tom and also the google project

Stef

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>> Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript.
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> How do traits fit into a prototype model? Has anybody written about  
> that?

We wrote the following:
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1615200
http://bergel.eu/download/papers/Cuts09aTraitAmbienttalk.pdf

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On 18 Mar 2010, at 14:35, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>> Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript.
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> How do traits fit into a prototype model? Has anybody written about that?
Tom Van Cutsem, Alexandre Bergel, Stéphane Ducasse, Wolfgang De Meuter: Adding State and Visibility Control to Traits Using Lexical Nesting. ECOOP 2009: 220-243

And at least in the beginning, Tom[1] was thinking about something along the lines of what I called 'grafts' in my RFC for PHP[2]. But since the reference is gone, I guess he is up to something different now.

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[1] http://code.google.com/p/es-lab/wiki/Traits
[2] http://wiki.php.net/rfc/horizontalreuse

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