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Turn of Auto Parens

Rick Zaccone
I recently installed the latest web image.  When I type code, it  
automatically enters closing parens and brackets which I find more  
annoying than helpful.

Where do I find the option to turn this off?  I looked under  
"keyboard" (it seemed like the obvious choice), but it wasn't there.

Thanks,

Rick

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RE: Turn of Auto Parens

Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)
Although I'm sure local Squeakers will help you out, generally this
relates to Squeak list more so than it does to the Seaside one,

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> I recently installed the latest web image.  When I type code, it
> automatically enters closing parens and brackets which I find more
> annoying than helpful.
>
> Where do I find the option to turn this off?  I looked under
> "keyboard" (it seemed like the obvious choice), but it wasn't there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
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Re: Turn of Auto Parens

Philippe Marschall
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2007/8/28, Rick Zaccone <[hidden email]>:
> I recently installed the latest web image.  When I type code, it
> automatically enters closing parens and brackets which I find more
> annoying than helpful.
>
> Where do I find the option to turn this off?  I looked under
> "keyboard" (it seemed like the obvious choice), but it wasn't there.

Look open the preferences tool and serach for "smart". There should be
an option called "smart parens" or something like this. You need to
turn it off.

Cheers
Philippe

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Re: Turn of Auto Parens

Rick Zaccone

On Aug 29, 2007, at 2007-08-29, 3:28 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2007/8/28, Rick Zaccone <[hidden email]>:
>> I recently installed the latest web image.  When I type code, it
>> automatically enters closing parens and brackets which I find more
>> annoying than helpful.
>>
>> Where do I find the option to turn this off?  I looked under
>> "keyboard" (it seemed like the obvious choice), but it wasn't there.
>
> Look open the preferences tool and serach for "smart". There should be
> an option called "smart parens" or something like this. You need to
> turn it off.
>
> Cheers
> Philippe

Thanks.  That's what I needed.  It's called  
ecompletionSmartCharacters and it's in the browsing category.

Rick

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Re: Turn of Auto Parens

Damien Cassou-3
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Hi Rick,

2007/8/28, Rick Zaccone <[hidden email]>:
> I recently installed the latest web image.  When I type code, it
> automatically enters closing parens and brackets which I find more
> annoying than helpful.

I have to say that this feature annoyed me too. But I tried to get
used to because I thought it would help. And now, I really can't live
without. It's so cool to select the expression and press $( to have
both $( and $) added.

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Re: Turn of Auto Parens

Colin Putney

On Sep 3, 2007, at 12:44 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:

> Hi Rick,
>
> 2007/8/28, Rick Zaccone <[hidden email]>:
>> I recently installed the latest web image.  When I type code, it
>> automatically enters closing parens and brackets which I find more
>> annoying than helpful.
>
> I have to say that this feature annoyed me too. But I tried to get
> used to because I thought it would help. And now, I really can't live
> without. It's so cool to select the expression and press $( to have
> both $( and $) added.

This is so frustrating. The fact is that Squeak has been able to do  
exactly that forever. Select the expression and press cmd-shift-9.  
That sounds obscure, but it's only one more key than shift-9 for $(.  
It works with $[, ${, $<, $' and $" too.

My guess is that this "new feature" is popular because people don't  
know about the existing feature that does the same thing. The really  
tragic thing is that it gets in your way when you don't want it,  
which makes it discoverable, whereas the old way of doing it stays  
out of the way when you don't need it, and thus stays undiscovered.

AutoParens or SmartKeys or whatever you want to call, it is a step  
backwards.

Colin


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Re: Turn of Auto Parens

Bert Freudenberg
On Sep 3, 2007, at 1:14 , Colin Putney wrote:

> On Sep 3, 2007, at 12:44 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> 2007/8/28, Rick Zaccone <[hidden email]>:
>>> I recently installed the latest web image.  When I type code, it
>>> automatically enters closing parens and brackets which I find more
>>> annoying than helpful.
>>
>> I have to say that this feature annoyed me too. But I tried to get
>> used to because I thought it would help. And now, I really can't live
>> without. It's so cool to select the expression and press $( to have
>> both $( and $) added.
>
> This is so frustrating. The fact is that Squeak has been able to do  
> exactly that forever. Select the expression and press cmd-shift-9.  
> That sounds obscure, but it's only one more key than shift-9 for $
> (. It works with $[, ${, $<, $' and $" too.
>
> My guess is that this "new feature" is popular because people don't  
> know about the existing feature that does the same thing. The  
> really tragic thing is that it gets in your way when you don't want  
> it, which makes it discoverable, whereas the old way of doing it  
> stays out of the way when you don't need it, and thus stays  
> undiscovered.
>
> AutoParens or SmartKeys or whatever you want to call, it is a step  
> backwards.

While I do agree with that, one huge problem with the "old" bindings  
is that they are hard-coded to the US keyboard layout and thus do not  
work on the majority of keyboards.

- Bert -


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