Universes question

Hello all,

I just downloaded pharo0.1-10243dev09.02.3 from the website and  
updated to the latest. I expected to see the Universe browser in the  
menus, but it isn't there, So I checked the image, and Universes is  
not there.

I thought the Universes code was in the dev image.... what am I missing?


Regards,

- Brian


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I noticed the same thing yesterday, but forgot to say anything.  It was there in 10236-dev under World->Tools->More, but seems to have been missing since 10243...

Rob



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On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Brian Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I just downloaded pharo0.1-10243dev09.02.3 from the website and
> updated to the latest. I expected to see the Universe browser in the
> menus, but it isn't there, So I checked the image, and Universes is
> not there.
>
> I thought the Universes code was in the dev image.... what am I missing?

Hehe, I'm playing with all of you :-D. Some recent pharo-dev images
have been generated using Sake/Packages. The very latest has been
generated by a simple script (ScriptLoader>>buildPharoDev) from the
latest monticello versions of the packages.

I'm in the need of comments. Please tell me what you need in the
pharo-dev images. Remember that these images are not for me for you.

To install Universes:

Installer ss
        project: 'XMLSupport';
        install: 'XML-Parser'.

Installer ss
        project: 'universes';
        install: 'Universes'.
       
Installer ss
        project: 'OBUniverse';
        install: 'OBUniverse'

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disable OB-debugger for now.

On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:


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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
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> disable OB-debugger for now.

the latest version is quite good. I would prefer you try it before I
remove it. What do you think?

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I do not know
but pharo-dev when out should be rock solid.
and the debugger should work 100% even 120%

Stef

On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:


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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> I do not know
> but pharo-dev when out should be rock solid.
> and the debugger should work 100% even 120%

with the ob-debugger, we have a maintainer and a good code quality.
Using the ob-debugger now means that you give it a chance to improve
and be ready for the Pharo release.

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Damien Cassou pravi:

> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

>> I do not know
>> but pharo-dev when out should be rock solid.
>> and the debugger should work 100% even 120%

> with the ob-debugger, we have a maintainer and a good code quality.
> Using the ob-debugger now means that you give it a chance to improve
> and be ready for the Pharo release.

I'm also for risking a bit, when there is a clear chance that any
possible problem will be solved immediately. This is a big encouragement
to the authors to finish their work in a way to become really useful and
stable 120%, as Stef said.

This is one of the ways how to avoid half-baked projects as we can see
them a lot around in Smalltalk.

To be honest, this is my way of encouraging myself as well :)

Janko




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>> disable OB-debugger for now.
>
> the latest version is quite good. I would prefer you try it before I
> remove it. What do you think?


Few people around me were reluctant to use pharo-dev because of the  
debugger.

I am for a new debugger, but maybe it was a bit premature.

Cheers,
Alexandre

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With OmniBrowser-dr.442 & OB-Tools-dkh.65, I believe that the outstanding issues are fixed...

Dale

----- "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> wrote:

| disable OB-debugger for now.
|
| On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
|
| > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Brian Brown <[hidden email]>
|  
| > wrote:
| >> I just downloaded pharo0.1-10243dev09.02.3 from the website and
| >> updated to the latest. I expected to see the Universe browser in
| the
| >> menus, but it isn't there, So I checked the image, and Universes
| is
| >> not there.
| >>
| >> I thought the Universes code was in the dev image.... what am I  
| >> missing?
| >
| > Hehe, I'm playing with all of you :-D. Some recent pharo-dev images
| > have been generated using Sake/Packages. The very latest has been
| > generated by a simple script (ScriptLoader>>buildPharoDev) from the
| > latest monticello versions of the packages.
| >
| > I'm in the need of comments. Please tell me what you need in the
| > pharo-dev images. Remember that these images are not for me for
| you.
| >
| > To install Universes:
| >
| > Installer ss
| > project: 'XMLSupport';
| > install: 'XML-Parser'.
| >
| > Installer ss
| > project: 'universes';
| > install: 'Universes'.
| >
| > Installer ss
| > project: 'OBUniverse';
| > install: 'OBUniverse'
| >
| > --
| > Damien Cassou
| > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
| >
| > _______________________________________________
| > Pharo-project mailing list
| > [hidden email]
| > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
| >
|
|
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