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Peter Vuchelen

Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

Greetings everyone,

I work as an Automation Engineer for a company in Belgium; our main business application was written in VisualWorks 3.1 over 10 years ago.
For the last 2 years, I have been maintaining the source code and adding more modules.
Now, one of our goals in the not so distant future will be to upgrade to a new Architecture (VisualWorks 7.8+?), mainly to update the UI and add support for Web services.

I noticed on the website of Cincom that an International conference on SmallTalk will take place at the end of this month in Ghent, Belgium (basically, in my backyard :)
Will anyone of you with experience in this subject be present at ESUG 2012?
Maybe even someone from Cincom?

I would like to talk to someone on how to handle a project like this and see if we can tackle this internally or if we need external help...

Kind regards,
- Peter Vuchelen

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Nowak, Helge

Re: Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

Dear Peter,

there will be plenty of Cincom people at ESUG. Cincom itself is offering support for such update projects. We are looking forward to help you!

Cheers

Helge

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davidbuck

Re: Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

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I've performed several upgrades like that. The most recent was for Desjardins General Insurance (http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/successes/insurance/#desjardins) where I worked with Cincom to upgrade their system from VisualWorks 3.1/ENVY to VisualWorks 7.7/Store. I'd be happy to talk to you about upgrades.

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Peter Vuchelen wrote:

Greetings everyone,

I work as an Automation Engineer for a company in Belgium; our main business application was written in VisualWorks 3.1 over 10 years ago.
For the last 2 years, I have been maintaining the source code and adding more modules.
Now, one of our goals in the not so distant future will be to upgrade to a new Architecture (VisualWorks 7.8+?), mainly to update the UI and add support for Web services.

I noticed on the website of Cincom that an International conference on SmallTalk will take place at the end of this month in Ghent, Belgium (basically, in my backyard :)
Will anyone of you with experience in this subject be present at ESUG 2012?
Maybe even someone from Cincom?

I would like to talk to someone on how to handle a project like this and see if we can tackle this internally or if we need external help...

Kind regards,
- Peter Vuchelen
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Steven Kelly

Re: Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

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You might also want to look at:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/CincomSmalltalkWiki/How+Do+I+Upgrade+VisualWorks

- Google PortingAndGardening to find the (old) slides...

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/presentations/userConf06/Ross_Porting-to-VW7.pdf

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?entry=3392379634

- Also here: http://youtu.be/8DciUS4_cQY. Video doesn't have enough resolution to show slides, and the file has been removed from the STIC site :(

You'd think given Smalltalk's long history Cincom and STIC would be a bit better at maintaining material, even things from as far back as 4 years ago...

Steve

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stephane ducasse-2

Re: Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

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Hi peter

if this is your backyard, come and have fun with us.
ESUG is a cool conference and you can build a lot of contact.

Stef

On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Peter Vuchelen wrote:

> Greetings everyone,
>
> I work as an Automation Engineer for a company in Belgium; our main business application was written in VisualWorks 3.1 over 10 years ago.
> For the last 2 years, I have been maintaining the source code and adding more modules.
> Now, one of our goals in the not so distant future will be to upgrade to a new Architecture (VisualWorks 7.8+?), mainly to update the UI and add support for Web services.
>
> I noticed on the website of Cincom that an International conference on SmallTalk will take place at the end of this month in Ghent, Belgium (basically, in my backyard :)
> Will anyone of you with experience in this subject be present at ESUG 2012?
> Maybe even someone from Cincom?
>
> I would like to talk to someone on how to handle a project like this and see if we can tackle this internally or if we need external help...
>
>
> Kind regards,
> - Peter Vuchelen
> CG DISCLAIMER: This email contains confidential information. It is intended exclusively for the addressees. If you are not an addressee, you must not store, transmit or disclose its contents. Instead please notify the sender immediately; and permanently delete this e-mail from your computer systems. We have taken reasonable precautions to ensure that no viruses are present. However, you must check this email and the attachments, for viruses. We accept no liability whatsoever, for any detriment caused by any transmitted virus.
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Reinhard Heisterhagen

Re: Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

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Hi Peter,

we at Heeg have a long tradition in migrating Smalltalk applications and some of our people will be on ESUG conference. A good chance for you to speak with our director Georg Heeg. Our main office is in Dortmund which is quite near to Belgium ;-)

To get an overview you can visit our site www.heeg.de.

Looking forward to help you.

Kind regards,

Reinhard Heisterhagen
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Peter Vuchelen schrieb:

Greetings everyone,

I work as an Automation Engineer for a company in Belgium; our main business application was written in VisualWorks 3.1 over 10 years ago.
For the last 2 years, I have been maintaining the source code and adding more modules.
Now, one of our goals in the not so distant future will be to upgrade to a new Architecture (VisualWorks 7.8+?), mainly to update the UI and add support for Web services.

I noticed on the website of Cincom that an International conference on SmallTalk will take place at the end of this month in Ghent, Belgium (basically, in my backyard :)
Will anyone of you with experience in this subject be present at ESUG 2012?
Maybe even someone from Cincom?

I would like to talk to someone on how to handle a project like this and see if we can tackle this internally or if we need external help...

Kind regards,
- Peter Vuchelen
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Peter Vuchelen

Re: Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

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Hey Steven,

Thanks for these documents; finally had a chance to look at them.
These will definitely come in handy.

Peter VUCHELEN

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You might also want to look at:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/CincomSmalltalkWiki/How+Do+I+Upgrade+VisualWorks
- Google PortingAndGardening to find the (old) slides...

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/presentations/userConf06/Ross_Porting-to-VW7.pdf
- see also p.22-27 in http://www.esug.org/data/ReportsFromNiallRoss/nfrStS2007andVendorReports.pdf

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?entry=3392379634
- Also here: http://youtu.be/8DciUS4_cQY. Video doesn't have enough resolution to show slides, and the file has been removed from the STIC site :(

You'd think given Smalltalk's long history Cincom and STIC would be a bit better at maintaining material, even things from as far back as 4 years ago...

Steve

From: [hidden email] on behalf of Peter Vuchelen
Sent: Mon 06/08/2012 10:44
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Subject: [vwnc] Upgrading a VisualWorks 3.1 application

Greetings everyone,

I work as an Automation Engineer for a company in Belgium; our main business application was written in VisualWorks 3.1 over 10 years ago.
For the last 2 years, I have been maintaining the source code and adding more modules.
Now, one of our goals in the not so distant future will be to upgrade to a new Architecture (VisualWorks 7.8+?), mainly to update the UI and add support for Web services.

I noticed on the website of Cincom that an International conference on SmallTalk will take place at the end of this month in Ghent, Belgium (basically, in my backyard :)
Will anyone of you with experience in this subject be present at ESUG 2012?
Maybe even someone from Cincom?

I would like to talk to someone on how to handle a project like this and see if we can tackle this internally or if we need external help...

Kind regards,
- Peter Vuchelen

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