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Göran Krampe

Using Pier for intranet

Howdy list!

We are considering moving our relatively small (250 pages) but steadily
growing ComSwiki to Pier at MSC (formerly Toolkit Software). There are
several reasons for picking Pier, but it is not yet totally decided. One
obvious reason is that we have been looking at integrating Pier and
Gjallar, so learning more about Pier is a good thing. We also like the
fact that we can "hack it" etc since we know Squeak and so on.

I have a few questions:

- What persistency are people using? Saving the image now and then is not
enough, we are considering using Magma (since we use it a lot in Gjallar)
and are interested in any reports on that.

- Compared to ComSwiki, what is *missing*? I know Pier has lots of
*extras* but I am more concerned about stuff *not* there. The basics we
really want are of course recent changes, access to older versions
(diffing not required), search, references to this page, attachment
handling (versions not needed). Might have missed something in that list
of course.

regards, Göran

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Lukas Renggli-2

Re: Using Pier for intranet

> - What persistency are people using? Saving the image now and then
> is not
> enough, we are considering using Magma (since we use it a lot in
> Gjallar)
> and are interested in any reports on that.

All the web sites I know use the image for persistency (including
seaside.st and my personal web site). There is nothing that prevents
you from using Magma. There are even some extension published in the
repositories, but I don't know how reliable they work, if they are
used at all, what their performance is and if they are up-to-date.

> - Compared to ComSwiki, what is *missing*?

Pier is not a Wiki, but a CMS ;-)

> I know Pier has lots of
> *extras* but I am more concerned about stuff *not* there. The
> basics we
> really want are of course recent changes, access to older versions
> (diffing not required)

This used to be there, but got lost in the process. It would be easy
to add again, but I personally never felt a strong need to have it.
Maybe later tonight I will give a try to see if it still works ...

> search, references to this page

Yes. Yes.

> attachment
> handling (versions not needed).

Yes, it is possible to upload files.

Cheers,
Lukas

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http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

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stéphane ducasse-2

Re: Using Pier for intranet

By the way lukas do not forget the esug deal to support the
enhancement of pier :)

Stef

On 25 sept. 07, at 14:06, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>> - What persistency are people using? Saving the image now and then
>> is not
>> enough, we are considering using Magma (since we use it a lot in
>> Gjallar)
>> and are interested in any reports on that.
>
> All the web sites I know use the image for persistency (including
> seaside.st and my personal web site). There is nothing that prevents
> you from using Magma. There are even some extension published in the
> repositories, but I don't know how reliable they work, if they are
> used at all, what their performance is and if they are up-to-date.
>
>> - Compared to ComSwiki, what is *missing*?
>
> Pier is not a Wiki, but a CMS ;-)
>
>> I know Pier has lots of
>> *extras* but I am more concerned about stuff *not* there. The
>> basics we
>> really want are of course recent changes, access to older versions
>> (diffing not required)
>
> This used to be there, but got lost in the process. It would be easy
> to add again, but I personally never felt a strong need to have it.
> Maybe later tonight I will give a try to see if it still works ...
>
>> search, references to this page
>
> Yes. Yes.
>
>> attachment
>> handling (versions not needed).
>
> Yes, it is possible to upload files.
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
>
>
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