Using moose for other things than analyzing source code
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Hi guys,
In Avispa[1] and Adore/S[2] we created small meta models that reason on software processes (task, role and artifact) and business processes. This is done without extending Famix then. So, if you're looking for some arguments for using Moose for other things than analyzing source code, then you have some examples. Cheers, Alexandre [1] http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/ProcessModel [2] http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/Adore -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi guys, > > In Avispa[1] and Adore/S[2] we created small meta models that reason on software processes (task, role and artifact) and business processes. > This is done without extending Famix then. So, if you're looking for some arguments for using Moose for other things than analyzing source code, then you have some examples. Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME description? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > [1] http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/ProcessModel > [2] http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/Adore > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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> Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME description?
I have subclasses of MooseEntity. I did not use Fame. Maybe I should have, but I started with a metamodel independent from Moose. I then made the link. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME description? > > I have subclasses of MooseEntity. I did not use Fame. Maybe I should have, but I started with a metamodel independent from Moose. I then made the link. > I think that been independent of Famix is nice in your case, now you should still use the fame infrastrcuture so that all the tools relying on it can be used. > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Alex,
That is pretty cool. Is there a way to get the data you used? Fame should be used to get the MSE input-output. Cheers, Doru On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME >>> description? >> >> I have subclasses of MooseEntity. I did not use Fame. Maybe I >> should have, but I started with a metamodel independent from Moose. >> I then made the link. >> > > I think that been independent of Famix is nice in your case, now you > should still use the fame infrastrcuture so that all the tools > relying on it > can be used. > >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Jul 15, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Alex, > > That is pretty cool. you see alex I told you :) > Is there a way to get the data you used? > > Fame should be used to get the MSE input-output. > > Cheers, > Doru > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I added the one of Adore:
http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/Adore Cheers, Alexandre On 15 Jul 2010, at 15:02, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Alex, > > That is pretty cool. Is there a way to get the data you used? > > Fame should be used to get the MSE input-output. > > Cheers, > Doru > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>>> Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME description? >>> >>> I have subclasses of MooseEntity. I did not use Fame. Maybe I should have, but I started with a metamodel independent from Moose. I then made the link. >>> >> >> I think that been independent of Famix is nice in your case, now you should still use the fame infrastrcuture so that all the tools relying on it >> can be used. >> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Yesterday is a fact. > Tomorrow is a possibility. > Today is a challenge." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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you also have the sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rm_hHfNe6M from smashing pumpkins Stef On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I added the one of Adore: > > http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/Adore > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 15:02, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> That is pretty cool. Is there a way to get the data you used? >> >> Fame should be used to get the MSE input-output. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>>> Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME description? >>>> >>>> I have subclasses of MooseEntity. I did not use Fame. Maybe I should have, but I started with a metamodel independent from Moose. I then made the link. >>>> >>> >>> I think that been independent of Famix is nice in your case, now you should still use the fame infrastrcuture so that all the tools relying on it >>> can be used. >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Yesterday is a fact. >> Tomorrow is a possibility. >> Today is a challenge." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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> That is pretty cool. Is there a way to get the data you used?
I added the models we used. > Fame should be used to get the MSE input-output. Ok, important point. We started from XML definition, this is what Sebastian and Julio had. Cheers, Alexandre > > Cheers, > Doru > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>>> Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME description? >>> >>> I have subclasses of MooseEntity. I did not use Fame. Maybe I should have, but I started with a metamodel independent from Moose. I then made the link. >>> >> >> I think that been independent of Famix is nice in your case, now you should still use the fame infrastrcuture so that all the tools relying on it >> can be used. >> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Yesterday is a fact. > Tomorrow is a possibility. > Today is a challenge." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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This Smashing pumpkins looks like nosferatu. A must to see:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6185283610506001721# Alexandre On 15 Jul 2010, at 17:03, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > you also have the sound > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rm_hHfNe6M > > from smashing pumpkins > > Stef > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> I added the one of Adore: >> >> http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/Adore >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 15 Jul 2010, at 15:02, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> That is pretty cool. Is there a way to get the data you used? >>> >>> Fame should be used to get the MSE input-output. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Do you inherit from the metamodel root object and use FAME description? >>>>> >>>>> I have subclasses of MooseEntity. I did not use Fame. Maybe I should have, but I started with a metamodel independent from Moose. I then made the link. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I think that been independent of Famix is nice in your case, now you should still use the fame infrastrcuture so that all the tools relying on it >>>> can be used. >>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Yesterday is a fact. >>> Tomorrow is a possibility. >>> Today is a challenge." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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