I think it is important that the Seaside community be aware of this.
Eric Clayberg posted the following in the VAST newsgroup:
Seaside is a framework for developing sophisticated web applications in Smalltalk. http://seaside.st/ Many folks consider it to be the killer app for Smalltalk, much like Ruby on Rails is for Ruby. Currently, Seaside is available for Squeak and VisualWorks. It has not been ported to other dialects such as VAST. We would like to see it ported to VAST. To that end, we are issuing a challenge to the VAST user community to port Seaside to VAST. To make it worth your while, we are offering a reward of a full license to VAST and all of our add-on products (a $9,595 value) to the first *five* people who successfully and independently port Seaside to VAST (we want to make sure that anyone who gets it working is rewarded, not just the first to finish). The Seaside web site states that "Many Smalltalk VMs do not support the stack-copying techniques Seaside uses to implement backtracking". According to the site, this includes VAST. Assuming that this is true, you may need to be creative and come up with slightly different implementations based on what VAST can do. The most important criteria is that the public API surfaced by Seaside works as specified. Tutorial examples should also work unmodified. http://seaside.st/Tutorial/ -Eric Clayberg Sr. Vice President of Product Development Instantiations, Inc. [hidden email] http://www.instantiations.com/vast I responded to his post thus: Or modify VAST to support the continuations that Seaside requires. Then it would be a fairly straight-forward port. And his response was then: Any approach is on the table as long as it works in the end. Modifying the base in a backward compatible manner is fine with me. We can roll any base changes into the next maintenance build. -Eric Clayberg Sr. Vice President of Product Development Instantiations, Inc. [hidden email] http://www.instantiations.com/vast _______________________________________________ Seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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> Currently, Seaside is available for Squeak and VisualWorks. It has not been > ported to other dialects such as VAST. We would like to see it ported to > VAST. To that end, we are issuing a challenge to the VAST user community to > port Seaside to VAST. To make it worth your while, we are offering a reward > of a full license to VAST and all of our add-on products (a $9,595 value) to > the first *five* people who successfully and independently port Seaside to > VAST (we want to make sure that anyone who gets it working is rewarded, not > just the first to finish). I guess you already have to *own* VAST Smalltalk to even participate in the challenge, right? John > <snip /> -- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw _______________________________________________ Seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
No, I do not believe you have to own it to participate:
http://www.instantiations.com/VAST/download.htm Just as with VW, VA can be downloaded for free for certain limited non-commercial use (eg, evaluation/education, etc.). Nevin > >> Currently, Seaside is available for Squeak and VisualWorks. It has >> not been >> ported to other dialects such as VAST. We would like to see it ported to >> VAST. To that end, we are issuing a challenge to the VAST user >> community to >> port Seaside to VAST. To make it worth your while, we are offering a >> reward >> of a full license to VAST and all of our add-on products (a $9,595 >> value) to >> the first *five* people who successfully and independently port >> Seaside to >> VAST (we want to make sure that anyone who gets it working is >> rewarded, not >> just the first to finish). > > > I guess you already have to *own* VAST Smalltalk to even participate > in the challenge, right? > > John > >> <snip /> > > > -- > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all > progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw > _______________________________________________ > Seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > _______________________________________________ Seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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