[VW] 2.8a1.390 now available on public store

As requested on this list I published Seaside 2.8 on the public Store repository.

        SeasideForWebToolkit(2.8a1.390.0,mbany)
        SeasideForSwazoo(2.8a1.390.0,mbany)

both are based on Squeak version Seaside2.8a1-lr.390, July 4, 2007.

I also published Scriptaculous based on its most current Squeak version.

        SeasideScriptaculous(2.8a1.205.0,mbany)

based on Squeak version Scriptaculous-mb.205, July 6, 2007.

The version number for Scriptaculous in the public Store repository (2.8a1.xxx)
is meant to indicate that it will not work with Seaside 2.6 and Seaside 2.7.

Although I did not check, I expect most of the Seaside add-ons to fail with Seaside 2.8
(SeasideAsync, SeasideTesting, WebDesignerTool, SeaChart, ShoreComponents,etc.).

Enjoy,
Michel.

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Instance of text. In VisualWorks displaystring often is used to add emphaisis etc, so it doesn't always return a string.

Cheers!

-Boris
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2007/7/7, Boris Popov <[hidden email]>:
> Ah, found the sucker...
>
> WAHtmlStreamDocument>>print: anObject
>   anObject encodeOn: self
>
> Object>>encodeOn: aDocument
>   aDocument print: self displayString
>
> displayString
>   ^self
>
> Does #displayString in Squeak always return an instance of String? It doesn't here...

Just out of curiosity, what does #displayString return then?

Cheers
Philippe

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> > Michel,
> >
> > Okay, just had my first stab at moving up and got as far as getting the
> > home page rendering properly, but am now staring at a memory emergency
> > every time I try to submit a form, still need to poke around to see if its
> > something I did (doubt it, works fine in previous version), but if anyone
> > has any suggestions, please do share.
> >
> > More thoughts over at,
> >
> > http://leftshore.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/moving-from-27-to-28/
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
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> > > From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]
> > > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bany, Michel
> > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:15 AM
> > > To: Seaside - general discussion
> > > Subject: RE: [Seaside] [VW] 2.8a1.390 now available on public store
> > >
> > > One thing I noticed when upgrading to 2.8
> > > the #initialize instance method of components must send #initialize to
> > > super.
> > > Michel.
> > >
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> > > > From: [hidden email]
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> > > > Sent: vendredi, 6. juillet 2007 17:27
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> > > > Subject: RE: [Seaside] [VW] 2.8a1.390 now available on public store
> > > >
> > > > Just saw them in my RSS reader. Given that I only use Seaside
> > > > and SeasideScriptaculous I'm very excited ;) Thanks a bunch,
> > > > Michel, as always.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
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> > > > > From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]
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> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:24 AM
> > > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > > Subject: [Seaside] [VW] 2.8a1.390 now available on public store
> > > > >
> > > > > As requested on this list I published Seaside 2.8 on the
> > > > public Store
> > > > > repository.
> > > > >
> > > > >         SeasideForWebToolkit(2.8a1.390.0,mbany)
> > > > >         SeasideForSwazoo(2.8a1.390.0,mbany)
> > > > >
> > > > > both are based on Squeak version Seaside2.8a1-lr.390, July 4, 2007.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also published Scriptaculous based on its most current
> > > > Squeak version.
> > > > >
> > > > >         SeasideScriptaculous(2.8a1.205.0,mbany)
> > > > >
> > > > > based on Squeak version Scriptaculous-mb.205, July 6, 2007.
> > > > >
> > > > > The version number for Scriptaculous in the public Store repository
> > > > > (2.8a1.xxx)
> > > > > is meant to indicate that it will not work with Seaside 2.6 and
> > > > > Seaside 2.7.
> > > > >
> > > > > Although I did not check, I expect most of the Seaside
> > > > add-ons to fail
> > > > > with Seaside 2.8 (SeasideAsync, SeasideTesting, WebDesignerTool,
> > > > > SeaChart, ShoreComponents,etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > Michel.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > Fax +41 (0) 227 477 990
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I would suggest adding encodeon to text which would solve the problem when displaystring returns it instead of actual string. But it might not be a bad idea to add safety to object's encodeon to make sure displaystring didn't return self which go into recursion. Nasty, I know.

Cheers!

-Boris
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Sent: Sat Jul 07 03:29:14 2007
Subject: Re: [Seaside] [VW] 2.8a1.390 now available on public store

2007/7/7, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]>:
> > Does #displayString in Squeak always return an instance of String? It doesn't here...
>
> Squeak doesn't have #displayString, we use this just to keep
> portability with VisualWorks. #displayString defaults to #asString in
> Squeak. Isn't this supposed to return a string as its name says?

The reason we went through the whole #displayString pain (implementing
it in Squeak, changing every sender) is because we were told that we
could not use #asString in VW and that #displayString was the method
to use that would always return a String for displaying. Apparently
this is not the case. I'd be interested where this happens. If the
#displayString implementors in VW can't be fixed and are few, I'd
prefer it if we #encodeOn: would be overridden in these cases. Note
that we already have two #asString suckers. WARenderingContext >>
#nextKey and WATagBrush >> #id. I'd be happy if we could get rid of
those by implementing #encodeOn: in Symbol in the VW port.

Philippe

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Hehe, ever try writing code on a blackberry? :)

Up in objects encodeon fetch displaystring from object, compare == to object, if they are same you have guaranteed recursion and might as well try asstring and give up later... Recursion is pain in VisualWorks because of lack of stack overflow, but michaels package helps a bit. Hard to elaborate without looking at the browser, sorry!

Cheers!

-Boris
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Sent: Sat Jul 07 09:16:12 2007
Subject: Re: [Seaside] [VW] 2.8a1.390 now available on public store

2007/7/7, Boris Popov <[hidden email]>:
>
>
>
> I would suggest adding encodeon to text which would solve the problem when
> displaystring returns it instead of actual string.

That sounds good to me, and to Smybol as well while we're at it. That
also simplifyies some Seaside code and makes it better understandable.

> But it might not be a bad
> idea to add safety to object's encodeon to make sure displaystring didn't
> return self which go into recursion. Nasty, I know.

What would such code look like?

Philippe

>  Cheers!
>
>  -Boris
>  (Sent from an iPhone... Not!)
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: [hidden email]
> <[hidden email]>
>  To: Seaside - general discussion
> <[hidden email]>
>  Sent: Sat Jul 07 03:29:14 2007
>  Subject: Re: [Seaside] [VW] 2.8a1.390 now available on public store
>
>  2007/7/7, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]>:
>  > > Does #displayString in Squeak always return an instance of String? It
> doesn't here...
>  >
>  > Squeak doesn't have #displayString, we use this just to keep
>  > portability with VisualWorks. #displayString defaults to #asString in
>  > Squeak. Isn't this supposed to return a string as its name says?
>
>  The reason we went through the whole #displayString pain (implementing
>  it in Squeak, changing every sender) is because we were told that we
>  could not use #asString in VW and that #displayString was the method
>  to use that would always return a String for displaying. Apparently
>  this is not the case. I'd be interested where this happens. If the
>  #displayString implementors in VW can't be fixed and are few, I'd
>  prefer it if we #encodeOn: would be overridden in these cases. Note
>  that we already have two #asString suckers. WARenderingContext >>
>  #nextKey and WATagBrush >> #id. I'd be happy if we could get rid of
>  those by implementing #encodeOn: in Symbol in the VW port.
>
>  Philippe
>
>  > Lukas
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